The Multi-Eligible Player Recruitment Thread (2026 WC Cycle Edition)

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 3, 2022.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    No time like the present -- gotta make lemonade, and this seems as logical a moment as ever to reload. Thanks to everyone who has made the first edition such an interesting and informative read.

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/the-coming-boom-in-multi-eligible-player-recruitment.2110819/

    Related reading, if you like this kind of thing: The Detective Work thread in YA, where people post "rumored" Americans around the world and folks try to track down the facts:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/t...-guy-is-a-yank-detective-work-thread.1987805/

    And the "Kids who aren't citizens" thread in this forum, which kind of bleeds into this one and maybe also needs a reboot (I'll let someone else decide that) but seems worthwhile for discussing of U.S.-based players of interest not understood to be American:

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/kids-who-arent-citizens-arent-close-and-immigration.1831047/

    Of course the Yanks on Foreign NTs (and YNTs) threads are also terrific.
     
  2. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems to me like job #1 on this front for the ‘26 cycle is getting Balogun in the US setup.
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    He announced recently that he’s going to make an announcement on his international future soon. I posted it in the old thread a few weeks back.
     
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  4. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Still weird timing if that's USA. Why now, what so exciting gonna happen in the next 15 months? We might have a coach that doesn't rate him. Why not 4 months ago?
     
  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Doesn't make sense to me either why now, but he said he's going to make an announcement soon. Why make an announcement that you'll keep the status quo? Doesn't make sense to do that.
     
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  6. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Maybe he wants to talk to each of the coaches of the new cycle?
     
  7. Kombucha

    Kombucha Member+

    Jul 1, 2016
    Club:
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    Perhaps Balogun just made up his mind, but only really makes sense if you are going to announce a switch.
     
  8. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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  9. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #9 Dave Marino-Nachison, Dec 12, 2022
    Last edited: Dec 12, 2022
    My recollection is that he's cap-tied to Denmark but may be theoretically eligible for a switch at U23 level. (He's too old for our U20s.) With that said, when people say things that specifically reference the national team it sometimes means they are shopping themselves only at the senior level, which you'd maybe expect. No idea in this particular case, of course.
     
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  10. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    The second point is a good one. Didn't think of that angle.

     
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  11. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    Cremaschi in the Argentine U-20 WCQ pre-camp. Doesn’t mean he’s made the team yet, but there aren’t that many players who won’t make it from the pre-camp.

    This is very bad news. If he makes this team and they aren’t stupid enough to give him 0 minutes, he’s pretty much gone, unless he doesn’t pan out. At that point, how valuable would he even be to the US program? Maybe only a fringe player, at best.

    I don’t know what we really could’ve done better. Our WCQ campaign came too early for him to make it. He’s been a fast rising prospect the past year. He likely would make our U-20 WC team, but if Argentina views him as part of their team, they have the first opportunity to provisionally cap-tie him, and it’s hard to think we win this if both nations provide the same opportunity. The only other thing I could think of is inviting him to the USMNT camp in January, but is it worth it to do that for a player who has never played one first team game?

    Hopefully he doesn’t make their U-20 WCQ roster.
     
  12. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like we had him in the final week-long U20 camp. Right before the U20 WC qualifiers team was decided. He also helped our U19 win the Slovenia Nations Cup, bagging a brace in a victory over Croatia.

    I guess he was just either too young or not good enough for our U20 to take a chance.
     
  13. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    He wasn't seriously in the U-20 picture in the summer. It was a few months too early. I think he had a few USYNT call-ups early in 2022, but just not proven enough to make the qualifying team.
     
  14. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That tells me we either missed the boat on him, or our U20 team is very strong for a 17 y.o. to make it.
     
  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Our U20 team is very strong.

    But that said, we did have 16 year olds (now 17) on it.
     
  16. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Not a big deal. He isn't critical for our YNTs, if he becomes good enough to play for our MNT, but not for Argentinian one he will switch, if he is good enough for Argentina our chances close to zero anyway. We should see this as a training opportunity for the kid.
     
  17. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    What if we want him to play for us and also be good enough for Argentina?

    We should want these players to get this interest from other countries, and then decide to play for us.

    If we were able to provisionally cap-tie him first, very unlikely he’d eventually switch to Argentina.
     
  18. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The kid is only going to gives us look if he fails with the albi-celeste. And if he does, maybe he is not good enough for us either. I guess, we will be his sloppy seconds.
     
  19. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    Probably true at this point.

    In the end, we have to be able cap-tying players like this before bigger footballing nations take up interest, and then also be able to hold onto them with the provisional cap-tie as an advantage in our corner.

    In this scenario, I don't know that much could've really been done. Seems like the timing was just very unfortunate. Then again, possible Argentina leaves him out for the qualifying tournament, and then we can take advantage of that.
     
  20. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    This is another situation we have to be watching. Another player where if he appears at the qualifying tournament, he's probably gone. We likely can't offer what Guatemala can, in terms of a place on the U-17 WCQ team this year. Yes, he's only 14, but one of the better prospects in the USYNT player pool. In 3-4 years, it could certainly matter a lot which country he picked.

     
  21. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Like we can't hold on a player if Argentian NT wants him, Guatemala won't be able to keep the ones we want.
    Dest was the only exception, but Netherlands not Argentina and Dest is a very special character.
     
  22. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    This kid clearly doesn't have an agent yet if he goes. I get that all these kids get stars in their eyes from being asked to play up, but holy crap, Guatemala is terrible, their federation is awful, and the future market difference between being an American national team player and a Guatemalan is ... substantial.

    I'm a big fan of people going with the national team that feels right, but going with Guatemala is like joining a bankrupt company that doesn't pay its bills.
     
  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sometimes, the best thing that can happen for the USYNT set-up is for a dual nat to go into camp for a lesser-light YNT. The player can discover how disorganized or underfunded the fed might be. I know that Jamaica's WNT was requiring players to pay for their own travel to camp. Players might discover they don't fit in with the rest of the team or get treated like an outsider.

    And, of course, the player might love it and stick with it.
     
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  24. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    That's true.

    I think that can often be a challenge for a 14 year old to see and understand some of those things. Same with Haiti for Bryan Destin.
     
  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    If Guatemala provisionally cap-tie a player, it’s going to be very hard for us to find an opportunity to cap-tie that player later on, unless the player decides eventually they simply don’t want to play for Guatemala.
     

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