The All-Encompassing Pro/Rel Thread on Soccer in the USA

Discussion in 'Soccer in the USA' started by bigredfutbol, Mar 12, 2016.

  1. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow, that would be a huge change.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we're not careful people will run out of unique features to hate MLS for.

    Hmm, I guess the single-entity thing won't go away anytime soon.
     
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  3. HailtotheKing

    HailtotheKing Member+

    San Antonio FC
    United States
    Dec 1, 2008
    TEXAS
    Club:
    San Antonio Scorpions FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But we're all full of shit when we've hinted at, and spoken to the fact that folks have been looking into "American" approaches to soccer ....

    ...
     
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  4. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
    Staff Member

    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are they looking at this as a temporary solution to the temporary pandemic, or as a permanent switch?
     
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  5. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    At least until the World Cup.
     
  6. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Unique? Ever heard of Scandinavia?
     
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  7. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't count if its not England, Spain, England, Germany, England, Italy, Spain and maybe France.
     
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  8. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow.
     
  9. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They're getting pushback from senior officials and other clubs though I've not seen a definitive no yet. Summer football would go down well in France but it would really mess up their Chumps League competiveness.
     
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  10. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a feeling that, many years from now, giving the World Cup to Qatar will be cited by future soccer historians as the turning point leading to to the collapse of the sport.

    It can only get so top-heavy and out-of-touch, right?
     
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  11. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But then we have the North American World Cup. I think the 1994 World Cup truly transformed association football the
    world's game. I mean Alexi Lalas became world famous.
     
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  12. Qatar 2022 isnot going to happen. There's no time to play the qualifying matches and most probably Euro 2021 is a mirage, so it will be Euro 2022.
     
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  13. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is a perfect time to move the 2022 WC from Qatar to Australia and New Zealand. It would stay in the Asian Confederation as well as have some games in Oceania as well. Plus they can keep it in November/December as that would be late spring in the Southern Hemisphere. The time difference would mean low Live viewership in the Americas, However Fox could broadcast on Tape Delay around their NFL coverage on Sundays. Plus outside of Qatar, the the majority of the Middle East would be ecstatic with them losing the WC.
     
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  14. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting idea.
     
  15. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would suspect replacing the World Cup with the Euro cup would be really problematic politically.

    Not saying you're wrong, mind you.
     
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  17. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    An odd definition of unique then.
     
  18. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Also remember that Qatar bid on and bribed voters for a summer World Cup.
     
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  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a. wouldn't they have to play matches at unsuitable cricket/Aussie rules stadiums?
    b. do they really want to deal with all that sponsorship bs?
     
  20. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    a. The oval stadiums are pretty much equally suitable to the stadiums with tracks surrounding the pitch that have been used in many World Cups.
    b. They do have plenty of rectangular stadiums as well due to both rugby codes.

    One drawback is that their 2022 bid included a number of stadium expansions to get more 40K+ venues, and that obviously didn't happen.
     
  21. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How many venues do they really need? Isn't Qatar planning the whole thing using 6 stadiums?

    Australia:
    Brisbane - Suncorp Stadium - 53K
    Melbourne - Etihad Stadium - 56K
    Melbourne - AAMI Park - 30K
    Melbourne - MCG - 100K
    Sydney - ANZ - 83K (currently being renovated)
    Sydney - Bank West Stadium - 30K
    Sydney - Sydney Cricket Ground - 48K
    Adelaide - Adelaide Oval - 53K
    Adelaide - AAMI Stadium - 51K
    Perth - Optus - 60K

    New Zealand:

    Auckland - Eden Park - 50K
    Wellington - Westpac - 36K
    Dunedin - Forsyth Barr - 30K
     
  22. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Qatar started with 5 but is up to 8.

    I'm just worried that the CGs wouldn't look great and presumably would need a lot of security work. Do they still have the grassy kKnolls?

    People complain about NYC playing at a baseball stadium, where the field is under 15,376 meters square, compared the MCG's massive 25,696 meters (+67%).
     
  24. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Tour de France and related races would like a word...
     
  25. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's only 3 weeks, as is the French Open.
     

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