While we're still waiting for the first U.S. camp of the cycle (for '05 YOBs and younger) CONCACAF's pre-tournament is getting under way later this month. Twenty-seven teams are competing for six places in the regional final; the group winners advance. The U.S. obviously isn't in this. Neither are Honduras, Mexico, Panama, Costa Rica or the DR. Some of the team rosters are starting to land and I'm not gonna pretend I know much about them but a few of the groups look interesting. Canada is presumably a favorite to advance but one of its opponents is host T&T. Given the slim margins for error here, might be worth watching groups C and E, too. https://www.concacaf.com/under-20s-...als-groups-for-2024-concacaf-u-20-qualifiers/ Full match schedule: https://stconcacafwp001.blob.core.windows.net/media/3vxksa5o/cu20q-match-schedule.pdf Here's the thread for the U.S. program/pool. https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/the-2025-u-20-player-pool-thread.2125827/
Here by the way is Canada's roster. I see at least two known Americans, Stefanovic and Schilte-Brown. https://canadasoccer.com/news/canad...f-mens-u-20-championship-qualifiers-released/
These matches start Friday, I believe. I don't know if CONCACAF plans to publish squadlists, but it does appear the roster deadline has passed. Here's a list from PR. ⚽️ Convocatoria para el Concacaf Qualifiers Sub-20 Masculino el cual se llevará acabo del 23 de febrero al 2 de marzo en SKNFA Technical Center pic.twitter.com/K0OddO9dVo— Selecciones Nacionales de Puerto Rico (@HuracanAzulPR) February 20, 2024
Also came across this list today - out of curiosity, I see three Europe-based players in Luis Medina (Belenenses), Daniel Cruz Jr (Villarreal), and Jean Luc Fontana (Granada). Not sure if Jean Luc Fontana is US eligible despite being a US citizen, as may happen in those kinds of FIFA eligibility scenarios - just looked into him now and didn't quickly see anything that would confirm or not. There could be more throughout the list too, haven't double-checked them all.
To my untrained eye, none of the "bigger" teams seem to have much on the line in today's games. But I reserve the right to be wrong! https://www.concacaf.com/under-20s-...nder-20-qualifying-kicks-off-with-10-matches/
I don't want to make much of games I didn't watch between teams I know nothing about, but after the first set of matches -- during which there were a LOT of big blowouts -- maybe a few results could turn out meaningful. Neither T&T nor Guatemala put up big numbers as hosts despite winning, and Jamaica's Group F might be tight, who knows. Since only one team from each group advances, things might get interesting. Or they might not! Tracking things here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_CONCACAF_U-20_Championship_qualifying#Groups
Some teams have now played two matches (of three or four, depending on the group -- most are playing four). Cuba and host Nicaragua are cruising so far; they play each other on in their final game so we'll see how that shakes out; Guyana got a late PK to tie El Salvador, which maybe opens up that group a bit; host Guatemala is off to a good start, but they haven't played Curacao or Aruba yet; big game tomorrow between Canada and host T&T; same thing with Puerto Rico and Haiti, with the former needing to win.
Thanks for the thread. Group highlights hit my YouTube suggestions and I was curious what this was. In the Guatemalan highlights a Mathew Evans had a hat trick and I thought the announcer said he was with LAFC.
Over in Group F, it looks like Jamaica will advance with a win or a tie tomorrow against Bermuda. But I think theoretically Bermuda or maybe even Martinique could break through depending on what happens.
The huge one tonight is Canada versus T&T......................in Trinidad. When I was looking for possible upsets in this round, that was one I'd circled. Canada hasn't come in super-prepared, and the talent advantage might be negated a little bit.
In Group A (remember, these are winner take all groups) host Nicaragua and Cuba continue to look like they're on a collision course. B still looks funky. Tomorrow's El Salvador-Suriname game should clarify things. If the latter wins, El Salvador's probably in trouble. Tomorrow's (host) Guatemala-Aruba game should clarify C, though I think even if Guatemala wins Curacao could still take the group with a win against the hosts in the final round. Canada won D. Not advancing would've been a bummer for a 2026 host. In E, Puerto Rico needed to beat Haiti, and they were winning for most of the game before giving up an equalizer. Haiti advances. And in F, Bermuda needs to beat Jamaica today to force tiebreaker stuff.
Jamaica won, so they advance. They went up 2-0 early, then Bermuda scored two second-half goals, then Jamaica got the winner late. That means half the groups are done. As for what's left, Cuba needs to (and I'm guessing will) beat Belize today to stay alive in A. El Salvador-Belize looks important in B, as does Aruba-Guatemala in C.
Seems like chalk all over the board. I was hoping for a little bit of mayhem. It seems like the only "Pot One" seed in trouble might be Cuba. Just down to El Salvador and Guatemala needing to win their games against lesser opposition. Nicaragua, as a program, does seem to have been making strides over recent years. Not totally surprised to see them in position to "upset" Cuba and win that group. Their senior team had earned promotion to Nations League Group A, and was then disqualified. Anyway, that Cuba-Nicaragua game would seem like the most even and compelling of the remaining fixtures.
Former Union academy player Francis Castillo (recently signed with Cadiz) has been captaining the Nicaragua team. He has 5 goals in their 3 games so far ahead of that game against Cuba on Saturday. https://www.concacaf.com/en/under-20s-men/game-details?matchid=726518 https://www.concacaf.com/en/under-20s-men/game-details?matchid=726530 https://www.concacaf.com/en/under-20s-men/game-details?matchid=726542
Some big games tomorrow. Cuba managed to beat Belize, so they'll play (host) Nicaragua for all the marbles. El Salvador goes through if they beat (host) A&B, but if they don't, A&B or Suriname could advance. Curacao needs to beat (host) Guatemala for the latter not to advance.
It's done! And I guess this means I can spot posting here for a while: Cuba beat Nicaragua, going up 2-0 and then giving up a late goal. El Salvador won 1-0 on a second-half goal. Guatemala did the same. So those three winners join Canada, Haiti and Jamaica in the finals.
Weird question, but, anyone know why Nicaragua is just so --- at soccer? Never seem to do anything at all in qualification for the WC, horrible Gold Cup history too. They just seem horrible. Population seems to be similar to Panama, Costa Rica, El Salvador etc, but the pedigree is not in the same universe? Do they just like baseball better? They seem putrid .
Aside from population the major impediment in a lot of these countries is complete lack of financial resources to invest in the game. A country needs some combination of soccer culture, population, and enough resources to at least somewhat be able to invest in the game. A country like Nicaragua has none of those things.
So a quick guide to Central America. Panama and Costa Rica are at the highest economical and lifestyle levels in Latin America. Population and incomes are similar to Uruguay. The rest of Central America is the lowest in Latin America with economies around the Bolivia level but with much higher crime. Honduran soccer is very notable for playing at a much higher level than their economy per the book Soccernomics.
Thanks for the breakdown. I knew about Costa Rica's status (worked with a lot of Central Americans in the 90's who hated Costa Rican's for what they viewed as Costa Rican sense of superiority) economically, but had no idea why Nicaragua wasn't in a position to compete at a similar level to El Salvador or Panama etc. Thanks guys.
OK, one more thing: All I've seen about the draw is that it's in April. If you see specifics, let us know!