World Cup 2019 - General Discussion

Discussion in 'Women's World Cup' started by soccernutter, Jun 3, 2019.

  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Why Lieke Martens is crossing her fingers in this pic? Doesn't want to be jinxed by the notion of "fun team to watch but actually not winning"? :p
     
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  4. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #4 Lechus7, Jun 3, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2019
    Interesting summary of youth to watch:



    Got the question to our French friends: is 10th June a bank holliday in France?
     
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  5. MiLLeNNiuM

    MiLLeNNiuM Member+

    Aug 28, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well that was interesting for sure.
    Not one single player from the U.S. made the list of 30 players.
    There were 2 Canadians and one from Jamaica; though, you could argue they played at U.S. colleges.
    Doesn't bode well for the best team in the world that they don't have a single up and coming youth player playing in this year's WWC.
    These lists are a joke. LOL!
     
  6. mpr2477

    mpr2477 Member

    Jun 30, 2016
    Club:
    Vancouver MLS
    Not sure I agree that Australia’s defense “sucks”. It might not be their strongpoint, but it’s not “that bad”. AND.... nobody mentions Devanna...in the games I’ve watched this year, her pace is still top notch, and if anyone is a secondary scorer to Kerr, it’s her
     
  7. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's a nice, short rundown of teams & their entertainment value, a good conversation starter. I agree Devanna still looks good but maybe not a 90-minute player anymore in a grueling tournament like the World Cup.
     
  8. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunate news about referee Carol Anne Chenard. She's been diagnosed with breast cancer and is out of the World Cup.

     
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  9. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    Wow! I must have missed something: Ada wanted to play for 2019 WWC but the coaching staff left her behind and did not try to work things out with Ada - really?:ROFLMAO: Who is Kim McCauley? She is entitled to her own opinion but not her own facts. Total dump on Norway. GREAT LIST according to Kolabear - really? :p Poor training and tactics - I have not heard the other Norway players indicate this (unless they are all afraid to say this out loud) - really?o_O:rolleyes:
     
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  10. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Best wishes for a fast and complete recovery to her.

    Does anyone know if she will be somehow replaced or if the matches she was scheduled to direct will be re-assigned to other referees already on the World Cup team? What about her ARs?
     
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  11. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunate, and best wishes to her for a successful recovery.
     
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  12. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know, but it reminds me I meant to remind people about the thread on the Referee Forum. If you have serious referee questions during the World Cup, you might want to post a question there as there are many referees who might comment on or answer your questions. (But remember the moderation rules are stricter there - they're not interested in typical fanboy or fangirl whining about the officiating)
     
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  13. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's an opinion piece and , as such, it's great. Great conversation starter and introduction for the casual fan. Serious fans like us really are clueless about how to make the game accessible to new and casual fans.
     
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  14. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Take them to a Thorns home game. That'll do it.
     
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  15. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes but here's the thing - when writing about the state of women's soccer, journalists, even the dedicated WoSo ones, will bury Portland's success a 10 or 20 paragraphs into the story. And most "serious" fans are okay with it because Portland is old news to them. There's always some injustice somewhere, some unequal pay or unequal treatment story that we can cover somewhere in the world which is "new", which we haven't talked about, whether it's Norway or Jamaica or the USA or Afghanistan.

    What's more important to the "serious" fans of women's soccer? That they get fresh examples of old grips, something they haven't heard about before? - or that potential new fans find out what's fun about the game, what's working, what's successful, what's wroth being a fan about it, whether it's for the 4 weeks of the World Cup or something more permanent?

    We fans of the game - and most of its dedicated fan-journalists - are silly about that
     
  16. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I to me there are three-ish groups.
    1 - Those who follow women's football, whether the WSPL (or college), France, the WCL or elsewhere.
    2 - Those who know the game, and know who is good, and know about professional women's soccer, but don't follow it like category 1.
    3 - Those who are casual fans, who know something of football and something of the World Cup, but other than every 4 years or when their daughter or niece has a game, don't follow.

    The biggest thing about following the women's game is simply keeping it alive and growing. As a born and bread yank, with two yank parents, and 4 yank grandparents, I started watching football in 1982 (World Cup), as a youngin' and was attending matches pre MLS and pre-1994 WC. I have watched the level of fan interest grow as MLS has continued to grow. Women's pro soccer needs to continue year after year for there to be new and casual fans.
     
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  17. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's a 4th category - sports fans. People who like sports, lots of sports, and they may add women's soccer to their list if they're introduced to it the way they are with other sports - tips on which games to watch, what players to watch, what to look for and appreciate.

    Also, in your category 2, there's lot of room between those who "know about it" but don't "follow it" - and it would be nice to help them become more of a fan by helping them to discover who and what to watch.

    I'm not asking much. I'm asking that a sport be covered by sports journalists and talked about by fans the way other sports are: as sports. Sports with stars. Sports with highlights.
     
  18. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some (American or even other) non soccer fans will watch the World cup until their National team is eliminated, mostly the Olympics effect.
     
  19. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To me, that is the every 4 years category. Like those who watch women's hockey or track and field (athletics) or curling. That category really was meant to include those who will watch at a bar or when flipping stations, but not plan their day around a match, or have it marked on the calendar.

    Oh, absolutely. There is a lot of nuance in all 3 of my categories which we could discreet and pick apart. For example, if you know who Alex Morgan is, and what she does a profession, does that mean you know the game? They were meant to generalize...still, it is a good question to discuss.

    Yup. But, further, in the not-do-distant future, I can see a dedicated women's sports channel. Might be a bit like ESPN was back in the early 1980s at first, but there are enough professional women's sports around the world that I can see it happening.
     
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  20. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    Shanice van de Sanden met haar WK-kapsel. © Screenshot Instagram Shanice van de Sanden

    Shanice van de Sanden has her hair specially fixed for the WC with a panther skin pattern making a statement she's ready for the hunt. Mmmm, not very lionesque.
     
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  22. Mojo Jambo

    Mojo Jambo Member

    Aug 26, 2013
    Cleveland, OH
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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