PBP: Howard, Donovan: Everton @ Arsenal, 1/9/2010[R]

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad Gameday' started by appoo, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. england66

    england66 Member+

    Jan 6, 2004
    dallas, texas
    Agree with this. He covered a lot of ground at both ends of the park and helped out Phil Neville big time while putting a lot of pressure on Toure at the other end. Anyone who thinks he didn't have a good game today knows zero about the game. Simple as that.
     
  2. kjksccr

    kjksccr Member

    Feb 25, 1999
    San Carlos, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were a few times he maybe should have chased a guy when some of Arsenal's middle players slid out to his side but overall I think "shape" was more important than that and he stuck to his task.

    I do agree he could be aggressive going forward but new guy, new team, 4 days of practice has something to do with that. Better yet, it shows how focused he was not to screw up and make sure he was contributing. I think after a few games you will see some great interplay with his teammates. I also think that when he slowed the game down that actually helped Everton maintain their defensive shape.

    As for the media, they liked him and when you consider how little time he has had to prepare that is impressive. If it continues you might be surprised what someone would splash out for him. They are like lemmings over there sometimes.

    I think the more aggressive teams may be tougher for him but they will also provide more opportunity to beat a guy with a touch and counterattack as most of those teams play pretty open. Should be fun to watch. In Moyes' interview on BBC he said he would have left him out there if not for the cramps.
     
  3. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Rositzki is the proper pronunciation, per my Slovak wife. There are some differences in pronunciation between Czech & Slovak, but that is not one of them.
     
  4. Pull One Back

    Pull One Back Member

    Oct 24, 2005
    Knoxville, TN
    I think the 'Yanks Abroad Gameday' forum opened very early in Adu's tenure at Benfica (August 2007), but after his debut. Found this gameday thread for his debut in the general Yanks Abroad forum .... CL qualifier vs. Copenhagen, 662 posts

    http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584484
     
  5. Michel_Platini

    Mar 21, 2005
    Yep.

    a 'c' is pronounces 'ts' so that '-bec' sounds like 'bets' rather than 'beck'

    Good to see Rosicky healthy again.
     
  6. jclampit

    jclampit Member

    Apr 12, 2002
    Deja Vu.

    Lots of posts before being closed by mods. And a 1 star thread rating. :)

    (Too lazy to look it up, but I assume the thread ratings were higher later on, when he played better. I also kind of thought Landon's first games at Bayern would have had some long threads.)
     
  7. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Donovan does cover a ton of ground and he gets there in a hurry. Impressive that he played so well in his first EPL match 1 week after landing in England.
    Good move by Moyes bringing him in. Everton certainly needs players with their injury woes and to have one the quality of Donovan, even if very short term, appears to be a huge boost.
     
  8. obewan

    obewan New Member

    Jul 24, 2005
    NC
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Count me as one who would love to see Everton buy him from LA (if he continues being able to play regularly). What better prep for the World Cup than to finish the season playing against the quality players in the EPL.
     
  9. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Certainly, though I don't see there's any real chance that even could happen, no matter how much Moyes comes to value him. Another matter, that right mid spot's incumbent is Mikel Arteta... Speaking purely theoretically, assuming that Donovan similarly impresses throughout his 10 weeks--not a given-- and as if money were no object to Everton, the biggest reason Moyes might want to consider him long-term would be if he could not hold on to Pienaar. Otherwise, if he gets all his players back, he's got a full house again. Donovan might by degrees be better than some of Moyes's other options, but the others will not cost a cash-strapped Everton a 12-15 million dollar transfer fee.
     
  10. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All details aren't known, but it was revealed that Donovan's contract has a release clause in it . . .

    and, as someone else mentioned, don't underestimate the pressure of the fans and media. If Donovan plays this well throughout, and maybe, just maybe EVEN BETTER, anyone and everyone will be calling for Everton to try to keep him.
     
  11. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Toffees fans have already tentatively begun the buzz, but of course a bad match or two could kill it. There's also the other matter, which is that if he plays well and Everton does not splurge, another suitor in the EPL might in the summer transfer window. For now, let's just say that we all have reason to be cautiously optimistic, contingent upon continued good play by Landon.

    (This was the best soccer news I'd gotten by far since we'd qualified and drawn Group C. This match report is close to Group C's level in terms of how excited it's gotten me.)
     
  12. alky13

    alky13 New Member

    Jul 29, 2009
    Manchester/NYC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For what its worth if Landon actually scores on his cut into goal the expectations would sink him or any breathing human being.
     
  13. SpencerNY

    SpencerNY Member+

    Dec 1, 2001
    Up in the skyway
  14. Monarch Bay Beachbum

    Apr 5, 2004
    The OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Monarch Bay Beachbum

    Apr 5, 2004
    The OC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. Tony Dellbird

    Tony Dellbird English and Proud

    Mar 26, 2004
    Jolly Ol' England
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  18. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  19. austieaust1

    austieaust1 Member

    Nov 20, 2003
    New York
    Club:
    Paris Saint Germain FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This site (http:// www. ********.com / forum / showthread .php?t=145562) is a great resource for downloading match torrents. You'll have to register for access to the match. Good game from Landon yesterday.
     
  20. jcsd

    jcsd Member+

    Jan 27, 2006
    I think that'sprobably over enthusaistic Donovan fans pushing his rrating up..

    Fellaini for me undoubtedly man of the match. Donovan didn't get involved to begin with, but had a good spell either side of the break and then had to come off in the 68th minute with cramp, that's not for me a man of the match performance. I'd give Donovan a 6.5 or maybe even a 7, but I'd give Fellaini an 8 or an 8.5.
     
  21. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I was thinking. Even as an optimist, 7s and 8s just seem to be overstating his impact on the match. When he got the ball, yes, he did well, but he was't getting the ball as much as some others.

    Perhaps this is just a shock moment for everyone in England who, up to this point, refused to believe how good Donovan (as well as other Americans) really is. If you expect him to put on the same miserable performance he made as a young inexperienced player in the Champions League, then of course you're going to think he really lit it up yesterday.
     
  22. Sam Hamwich

    Sam Hamwich BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 11, 2006
    I remember thinking when Cahill turned the corner on Gallas that Donovan should have no problem in this league. He has twice the speed and is deceptively strong on the ball. I recall the breakaway against the Poland team where at midfield a defender literally tried to throw him off the ball and Donovan kept his balance and ball.

    His many cutbacks in this game I thought were motivated by lack of blue shirts in the box and maybe a decision to hold up a bit more rather than attack. I think that served Everton very well as they couldnt hold possession when it counted in the last 15minutes.
     
  23. tambo

    tambo Member

    Jun 9, 2007
    Ahh, geez, and very early in my tenure too. Totally forgot about that. I knew something felt off -- that changes everything!

    All right, the historical record must be corrected:


    1. Jan '10: Donovan debuts for Everton | 803 posts

    2. Aug '07: Adu debuts for Benfica | 662

    3. April '05: Beasley with PSV in Champions League semifinal | 576

    4. April '05: Beasley with PSV in Champions League quarterfinal | 538

    5. Feb '05: Donovan with Leverkusen vs. Stuggart | 534

    6. Feb '07: McBride, Dempsey, Bocanegra, Onyewu in Fulham vs. Newcastle | 466

    7. Feb '04: Mathis and Cherundolo in Hannover vs. Hertha | 442

    8. March '08: Friedel, McBride, Dempsey, Bocanegra, Keller, Eddie Johnson feature as Fulham meets Blackburn | 421

    9. Aug '08: Gooch helps shut out Liverpool in Champions League | 403

    10. May '08: Fulham beats Portsmouth on final day to avoid relegation | 391
     
  24. Friedel'sAccent

    Friedel'sAccent Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Reading FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Please refrain from showing how the mods inconsistently enforce the 500-post limit rule, as it makes us look bad.
     
  25. bungadiri

    bungadiri Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 25, 2002
    Acnestia
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not me. I'm a rebel and loner.
     

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