Youth Yanks Abroad 04/05 Edition

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999

    Here are the players I have on my "Confirmed Yanks Abroad" list born 1985 and earlier. It is a work in progress as always. All comments, corrections and updates welcome. Former clubs are listed in some cases.

    Britton Andrew 1985 Sheffield United England
    Johnson Jemal 1985 Blackburn England Manchester United
    Jörgens Jared 1985 DSC Arminia Bielefeld Germany
    Ludacka Ben 1985 VfB Ginsheim 1916 Germany
    Mecerod Mike 1985 KFC Verbroedering Geel Belgium 04/05 Sparta Prague, FC Brno
    Moccia Gianni 1985 S.S. Cavese Italy 04/05 L'Acquila
    Pino Octavio 1985 Almagro Argentina
    Denny Jay 1986 Stoke City England
    Parratt Tom 1986 Birmingham City England
    Pittman Jon-Paul 1986 Nottingham Forest England Aston Villa
    Puppolo Michael 1986 FC Astoria Walldorf Germany ASC Neuenheim
    Rogers Raphael 1986 Schweinfuhrt Germany
    Salter Sean 1986 FC Bitburg 1919 Germany
    Spector Jonathan 1986 Manchester United England 03/04
    Westberg Quentin 1986 EC Troyes France INF Clairefontaine
    Mascarenhas Brian 1987 Tottenham England 03/04
    Randolph Darren 1987 Charlton Athletic England 03-04 Ardmore Rovers
    Rossi Giuseppe 1987 Manchester United England 04/05 AC Parma, ODP Europe
    Weah Jr. George 1987 AC Milan Italy 03/04
    Logan Dominique 1987/88 SSC Vogelstang Germany
    Westberg Sam 1987/88 FC Issy-Les Molineux France
    Appel-Schumacher Thomas 1988 SG Blaubach Diedelkopf Germany 1 FC Saarbrucken
    Durr Stefan 1988 Bayer 04 Leverkusen Germany
    Hines Sebastian 1988 Middlesbrough England Kirk Deighton Rangers
    Puppolo Ryan 1988 FC Astoria Walldorf Germany ASC Neuenheim
    Clements Dylan 1989 FSV Bentwisch Germany 03/04 (Feeder to Hansa Rostock)
    Jonsson Nils 1989 JFG Wuerzburg Germany Post SV Sieboldshohe
    White Darren 1989 Hansa Rostock Germany
    Johnson William "Billy" 1990 FC Würzburger Kickers Germany

    Some guys I don't have birth years for but who I'm pretty sure are of the right age:
    Hammond James "J.J." FC Würzburger Kickers Germany
    Hemmer Stefan FC Astoria Walldorf Germany
    Hemmer Tobias FC Astoria Walldorf Germany
    Otero Xavier FC Astoria Walldorf Germany ODP Europe
    Thorne Kevin FC Astoria Walldorf Germany ASC Neuenheim

    Some players who may be abroad who are the right age, but whose current whereabouts I'm not sure of. If clubs are listed, they are their last known clubs:
    Ascacio Torres Roy 1985 Mexico
    Flores Sergio 1985 Chacarita Juniors Argentina
    Hernandez Loza Eddy 1985 Mexico
    Lopez Hernandez Santiago 1985 Mexico
    Ramirez Victor Alejandro 1985 Club America Mexico
    Rodriguez Sigala Jose Ulysses 1985 Mexico
    Allen Ryan 1986 FC Neustadt Germany
    Archer Zach 1986 Corinthians Brazil
    Lopez Luis 1986 Mexico
    Rivera Rodriguez Richard 1986 Tecos UAG Mexico
    Signoriello Vincenzo 1986 Calcio Napoli Italy
    Vidal Amaro Marco Antonio 1986 Tigres Mexico
    Purdin Christian 1987 FT Schweinfurt Germany
    Rodriguez Michel Joseph Everardo 1987 Club Valle de Grullo Mexico
    Rodriguez Michel Josue Edward 1987 Club Valle de Grullo Mexico
    Alba Hernandez Jose Eduardo 1988 Club America Mexico
    Chapman Joshua 1988 Dusseldorf Germany
    Stephenson Niklas 1988 FC Würzburger Kickers Germany
    Torres Castillo Hector 1989 Club Real Magari Mexico
    Wimmer Alex 1990 Hertha BSC Berlin Germany

    Finally, some other guys who I am pretty sure are 85s or later but am hurting for info on otherwise:
    Achilleos Alexandros Olympiakos Greece 04/05
    Ascherl Ryan FV Brühl Germany 03/04
    Buriano Sergio Italy
    Carlos Martinez Luis Club America Mexico
    Chacon Mendoza Raul Club America Mexico
    Escalero Jr. Samuel Club America Mexico
    Jaramillo Mike Club America Mexico
    Lugo Gordiano Johnny Club America Mexico
    Morin Salinas Rodrigo Club America Mexico
    Ordonez Chris Club Atletico Racing Argentina
    Palomino Orozco Pedro Club America Mexico
    Peral Hana Baltazar Club America Mexico
    Perales Londono Joel Club America Mexico
    Regalado Mendoza Alan Ramon Club America Mexico
    Torres Ramos Eduardo Club America Mexico
    Woods Cassidy Wandle England

    And please: If you see someone about which you know something, let me know. You may have mentioned a player before and the only reason I haven't moved him to the "confirmed" list is because I haven't been able to confirm things myself. Get on my case about it!
  2. IMOX77

    IMOX77 New Member

    Jun 15, 2003
    Long Island, NY
    Xavier Otero is an 87 according to region I's ODP website

    Kevin Thorne is either an 85 or 86 according to region I's ODP website
  3. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  4. scoonie45

    scoonie45 New Member

    Jun 21, 2002
    Thats a helluva post. well done.
  5. cumonref

    cumonref New Member

    Great post!

    I know about and have seen Jonathon Spector, Jemal Johnson, Jay Denny and Brian Mascerenhas play. I would love to know more about;

    Andrew Britton, Tom Parrot, Jon-Paul Pittman, Darren Randolph, Giuseppe Rossi & Sebastian Hines.


    P.S. I thought that Masceranhas had left Tottenham and gone back to the U.S.?
  6. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    There must be a background story for a lot of these players. Gianni Moccia in Italy? Stefan Durr in Germany? Octavio Pino in Argentina?

    We're talking sort of, kind of American, aren't we? Not, this kid was born in U.S.A. or this kid came here at a young age, but more like this kid flew over the States a couple of times.

    Do all these guys speak English?
  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Actually, none of the players on these lists have background stories of any kind.


    To the best of my knowledge these are all American citizens one way or another. (That's not to say I haven't made sevreal errors.) Many of the guys from Germany also play Euro ODP or for American high schools over there -- those programs have lots of military kids in them.
  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Quite possible. Can you (or anyone else) confirm this?
  9. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see lots of "Mexico" in the first post....not that there is anything wrong with that....but makes you wonder where their loyalties, was there a US NT opportunity, would lie if there is also a chance to play for Mexico... I'm not trying to pick on these kids as others have with respect to, say, Rossi.....These kids are all certainly Yanks and deserve to be mentioned and followed......Just wondering whether Mexican clubs have sort of become wiser and want to get our youngsters at earlier and earlier ages, and in numbers they have not done in the past.... much like Euro clubs have, but with the added quirk some of these kids would also qualify to play for "El Tri"...hmmm
  10. IMOX77

    IMOX77 New Member

    Jun 15, 2003
    Long Island, NY

    Unless he left in the past 10 days he is still with Tottenham. On November 22nd he came on as a sub in 75th minute for the hotspurs u18's
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Well, yeah, but so were Tom Dooley and David Regis, and the bottom line was that the played World Cup for us because we were crummy enough to give them a job. Kinda like playing David Cup tennis for Ireland.

    There are guys like that and guys like Freddie Adu or Chris Armas or Pablo Mastroeni, who were born elsewhere but are 100% red, white, & blue in their outlook. I would much prefer that we only play the latter group. We should have more pride than to be somebody's back-up country.
  12. IMOX77

    IMOX77 New Member

    Jun 15, 2003
    Long Island, NY
    Thats intresting i never knew that Mastroeni and Armas were born elsewhere. Not to change the subject of the thread but where were they born?
  13. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Hopefully we're past those days when anyone who played in Europe and had US citzenship was deemed automatically good enough to play for the USMNT. The talent pool has expanded quite a bit since those days. Kind of reminds me of the Reggae Boyz when Jamaician coaches were running around the UK asking black players about their parents. Or the Greek wormen's olympic softball team... Geesh I hope those days are over.
  14. E. & P.

    E. & P. New Member

    Mar 14, 2003
    Armas- Puerto Rico
  15. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Right. I believe that they both came over quite young, say age 4 or so.
  16. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001

    Armas was born in New York and he's never lived outside of the US.
  17. Aalborg

    Aalborg New Member

    May 2, 2002
    ASC NEUENHIEM = American Soccer Club Neuenhiem, basically the Heidelberg Tornados soccer club joining the local german village club. American kids whose parents are stationed in the Army in Heidelberg. Probably a couple hundred American kids playing at some level at the local village/town teams throughout Germany...Ramstien...Darmstadt...Mannheim.. Hanau..etc...
  18. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Brian Mascarenhas will be playing for the Region III (Southeast) team at the 1986 birth year Interregional in Chula Vista the first week in January.

    Dave - add Garrett Gunther, a 16 year old from Orange County, to the list. He is with the RC Genk U17s in Belgium. He's not EU eligible so only there with the youth academy, but from the sounds of it doing pretty well.

    USvsIRELAND Member+

    Jul 19, 2004
    Is he that kid whose mom posted on here??

    Does she still post??
    If so what forum??
  20. IMOX77

    IMOX77 New Member

    Jun 15, 2003
    Long Island, NY
    Maybee your thinking of Tom Parrat('86 - Born in Scotland grew up in the US) a defender from Birmingham City that usually features in their reserve fixtures on a weekley basis. There has not been much intrest in him recently because he has represented Scottland's youth teams in the past year. His mother used to post openly i think her name was Polly22 or something like that.
  21. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
  22. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Two more former So. Cal Regional ODP players in Mexico. Both were on the National Champion state ODP team in 2002 (?).

    F/AM Briant Mejia (late 87)-- He's supposed to be at Necaxa although I haven't been able to prove that yet. Necaxa's website doesn't even contain the rosters of their reserve teams. Made Regional ODP pool in 2001.

    MF Rodrigo Lopez (5/10/87 or 10/10/87; 5-7 135)- Listed in the newly updated USSF U-18 pool as playing for CD Chivas. There is a Rodrigo Lopez Alvarez listed on Chivas website with a slightly different birthdate. Lopez played for So Cal United on the National Championship team with Diego Barrera (Colombian born MF at LMU that did well at '86 ODP event in Jan) and Greg Folk (UCLA). He previosuly played for FC Santa Barbara where he was a Regional ODP pool player in '02.

    17.- RODRIGO LOPEZ ALVAREZ 10/10/87

    Lopez, Rodrigo M 5'7" 135 05/10/87 Santa Barbara, Calif. CD Chivas
  23. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    4 new US. born players that have recently registered with unknown Mexican clubs.

    Christian Carrillo (Diaz) 1/10/86 Van Nuys
    Enrique Higuera (Vargas) 12/23/85 West Covina
    Luis Miguel Rodriquez (Pineda) West Covina 1/18/86
    Daniel Godinez Rodriguez 10/3/86 San Diego
  24. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Octavio Pino, who is listed by Dave in his first post, is listed on the 2005 Clausura roster for Argentine club Almagro. 2005

    A midfielder born June 4 (or April 6) 1985, Pino was called into a US U20 camp last year and played in three games, starting two – none of them against other U20 teams – and got one assist. (scroll down to his name)
  25. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    davide, when you say unknown, I assume you mean we don't know which club, specifically, they've signed with not that they you haven't heard of the team with which they've signed. Correct?

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