YNT-eligible lower division-pro players: 2020 In-season thread

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by ckajMonet, Mar 7, 2020.

  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Does Ansu become the youngest USMNT-eligible player to play in a professional match? He's a December 05.

    I remember this article indicating that he's eligible for the US, but who knows if that's accurate.
    https://www.azcentral.com/story/spo...-kanneh-thriving-new-arizona-home/5539569002/
     
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  2. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    By like 3 days over Freddy Adu, if eligible.
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    I’m a little unsure about what San Antonio is doing with these young players. Leo Torres (‘04) and Fabrizio Bernal (‘03) have barely played this season. Their total minutes combined probably won’t even reach 50 by the end of the season. Ethan Bryant’s return has now seen Bernal fall out of the match day squad. There’s really no positives there. Bryant is a non-prospect. Torres and Bernal are two of the best attackers in their age groups. Their are teams that are starting 05’s regularly. San Antonio needs to start using these kids regularly. Otherwise, I hope they leave to Europe. It’s not enough to only use Gallegos. There are other players they need to develop.
     
  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas


    San Antonio is in that weird spot that clubs sometimes get into. They're the best team in the USL. The balance of providing playing time for the kids while also gunning for the trophy................is a difficult one.
     
  5. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
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    It’s really not. This is USL. The level isn’t high. They all are good enough to get minutes. It’s hard to play a team of all teams with half the team being fringe prospects. This would not be thay.
     
  6. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I think all those games you've been watching is catching up with you, brother!
     
  7. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    He's 23, which is a bit older than some of the guys mentioned in this thread, but hey, he's a '97, so it counts! Cal Jennings recently had a hat trick for USL Memphis, which you can watch here:



    They aren't flashy goals, but they are bread-and-butter goals where the finish wasn't automatic and he had to do some work to get into position. He has some nice physical presence.

    He was named the USL-C POTW for his efforts, so that's nice.

    Meantime, Chandler Hoffman keeps putting them away. I have no idea if the stats on Wikipedia are accurate, but if they are, it doesn't seem impossible that he might get to 100 U.S. professional goals with none in MLS. Has that been done since the league was founded?
     
  8. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    excited for some justin che early afternoon viewing today
     
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  9. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    was that che who just dropped an absolute dime of a longball for smith to run onto?
     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    USL League One.
    Currently the independent teams are in the top half of the standings, and the MLS reserve teams are in the bottom half of the standings. And of course TFC didn't even bother, pulling out for the season. To my untrained eye, the independent teams really improved year to year. NTSC isn't getting away with what they got away with last year.

    This Chattanooga/NTSC game is tied 1-1 in the 26th minute
    Cerrillo called for a handball leading to a penalty (according to twitterati, a phantom handball). Arturo Rodriguez scored on a free kick (see below). Thomas Roberts not in the 18, so I suspect he's with FCD.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
     
  12. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
  13. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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  14. ussoccer97531

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  15. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    I'm going to be doing a write-up of all the young Americans I saw in USL/USL League One this season. The playoffs of USLC are still to be played, and League One is still playing regular season games, but I think this is a good point for a season review. I'll add any additional thoughts at a later time.

    I'll make a separate thread for it to not clog this one. I have a list of over 100 players right now, so it'll likely take me some time. I don't know when I'll have it finished, but I expect it'll be some time within the next few days up to a week.
     
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  16. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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  17. ussoccer97531

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    via @Balerion. They have a very good young American coach. Fun team to watch. Root for them to win the USL Playoffs.

     
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  18. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    Given the level of NISA, if one wanted to take a league to task for not player youth players...
     
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  19. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    1315274634049314817 is not a valid tweet id
     
  20. ussoccer97531

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    Oct 12, 2012
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    1315623787237462017 is not a valid tweet id
     
  21. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    So that's that. Presumably the reserve league is happening, which I guess needs a thread. Gotta say I'm not excited about this. USL reserve teams were perhaps the greatest thing to happen to player development for players signed to MLS contracts, and now that's gone for a lot of these guys. I don't see how an independent reserve league could ever rival what USL had to offer.
     
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  22. Smithsoccer1721

    Smithsoccer1721 Member+

    Feb 16, 2007
    Middle of the Table
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Everyone is looking at this with the big assumption that USL wanted MLS to stay in the league. We have heard USL teams and others suggest they are not happy being seen as a "reserve" league as MLS teams send our teenagers to play. There have been competitive issues with teams rolling over MLS 2 teams. It's not a stretch for USL to have asked MLS to comply with some standards and that combined with MLS wanting to control its own development pipeline results in this decision. We know USL wants to build a vibrant lower division which is hard when a bunch of teams draw almost zero fans and get run over a lot of the time
     
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  23. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #748 Clint Eastwood, Oct 13, 2020
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2020
    I completely agree with this.

    Note the comment above. LAGII was the only MLS reserve team to make the playoffs.

    In USL League One, its likely that no MLS reserve teams make the playoffs. North Texas has a chance, but they have to run the table.

    If you're the USL commissioner, you like the stability that being associated with MLS can provide. But these teams aren't competitive, most provide nothing in terms of attendance or "juice." They keep adding more and more independent teams, and you wonder why they need these MLS reserve teams. There are 5 more independent teams planned in expansion (Oakland Roots, Queensboro FC, and Rhode Island in the next two years. Buffalo and Des Moines on the horizon. League One is also adding with the Rochester Rhinos planning to join that division).

    As I said in the academy thread, I look sorta 25 years down the road on this one. I see the MLS reserve league being similar to the U20 Liga MX team.

    Clubs can still loan players "too good" for this MLS reserve league to the independent USL Championship teams in the coming years. The quality of those teams is going to improve and improve.

    I don't get too worked up about this stuff, because the pace of change is really fast. Five years from now there may need to be a whole frickin' reorganization in the USL with too many independent Championship teams.
     
  24. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    And only because SD decided to forfeit 2 games.
     
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  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Don't get me wrong. I think it was a great accomplishment for LAGII to make the playoffs with such a young team. They're already out, though. They lost 4-1 to Reno, after getting their doors blown off by Phoenix in their last regular season game.

    So there are no good MLS reserve teams in that league. That's fine, because their goal isn't to win in the first place. None of us really talk about results in this thread. But then we should ask ourselves..................does this model work for the USL?

    USL clubs are busy developing their own youth development platforms and structures. Hell, Phoenix has their own affiliate in League One!!! (Tuscon)
     

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