Yanks abroad 2023-2024 thread

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jun 3, 2023.

  1. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LDLT's a poor man's Nagbe, who is a poor man's Musah
     
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  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    I actually love Nagbe's game. To my eye, Nagbe is a much more creative passer than either Musah or LDLT. I see him more in the Reyna/Tillman category. I don't know what soured him on national team participation, but I wish he had been a part of the USMNT during the heavy-MLS years. Perhaps he would have spared us hundreds of Lletget backpasses.
     
  4. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
  5. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he's useful farther up and in very small circumstances as a DLP type dmid but against any good team I'd rather have Richards - I think.
     
  6. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Who the heck would take the Sheffield United job? Graeme souness?
     
  7. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chris Wilder has already been reappointed, which didn’t even give time for the inevitable “Big Sam incoming” memes.

    So the Fire at least has one thing in common with the Premier League. :)
     
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  8. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Musah is younger, bigger faster Nagbe with worse passing. I don't know if it's poor vs rich as much as Honda Accord vs Toyota Camry.
     
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  9. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the Chicago fire thing stunned me. Absolutely floored. Wilder is a predictable fallback for the blades, probably the best they could get too.
     
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  10. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well we actually don't know how Nagbe would fare in a top league.
     
  11. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    What we do know is that at Musah's age he was playing for the Akron Zips. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
     
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  12. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    College ball, y'all!

    (just posting that b/c it rhymes)
     
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  13. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Just want to rep the Zip nickname. I like the oddball ones having grown up a block from KU (Jayhawks).
     
  14. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  15. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't think NCAA is as intense as Serie A?
     
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  16. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I would take him now over other MLS midfielders. He would be extremely useful in CA qualies. Not that we need that this cycle :)

    Seriously, what did happen? I remember some excitement when he got his green card. Did we move on from him, or he from us?
     
  17. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nagbe? He has 25 US caps.
     
  18. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He moved on from us.
     
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  19. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nagbe moved on from NT duty. He preferred being with his family, which is disappointing for USMNT fans but an acceptable reason. Same goes for Hollingshead, for different reasons. if you don't want to represent the US I'd much prefer players make that decision than mail it it, ala Chandler.
     
  20. porkrind

    porkrind Member+

    Quakes
    United States
    Sep 27, 2001
    Bostonia
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I respect that - I didn't know the story.
     
  21. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3621 TheHoustonHoyaFan, Dec 6, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 6, 2023
    It is fascinating that Chandler who covered more distance and had more sprints in only 82 minutes vs Slovenia, who covered more distance and had to cover the entire right flank playing a tilted 4-3-2-1 with Deuce central down in Honduras "mailed it in" while Nagbe who declined callups in 2016 under Klinsmann because he was not starting, came back under Arena and again declined callups under Berhalter was appointed is acceptable?

    Sports Illustrated writer Grant Wahl reported Tuesday that Nagbe also made the decision to forgo the call-up because he didn't "feel valued" by U.S. National Team coach Jurgen Klinsmann.

    https://www.oregonlive.com/timbers/2016/11/jurgen_klinsmann_says_darlingt.html

    One can argue how good Chandler was or how sound tactically off ball but he never mailed it in.
     
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  22. NietzscheIsDead

    NietzscheIsDead Member+

    NO WAR
    United States
    May 31, 2019
    NO WAR
    Musah is more a Dodge Challenger. Dude’s huge, strong, and explosive. He handles well at high speed.

    LDLT is a Toyota S2000 and Nagbe is a Subaru Outback.
     
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  23. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Better for Nagbe to stay home than be there grudgingly IMO, same with Chandler. Being a member of the USMNT is a major commitment for guys and they should want to be there. Seattle has barely finished in second place the last 2 goals cup years, missing their least replaceable player for 5-6 games.
     
  24. deejay

    deejay Member+

    Feb 14, 2000
    Tarpon Springs, FL
    Club:
    Jorge Wilstermann
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I heard that was also a Dike car. Ba-DUM-tish!
     
  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Some guys can't handle being role or rotation or bench guys. That's always what it seemed like to me with Nagbe. We can see in Klinsmann's comments about the Nagbe situation, that he valued the player. He just had other guys ahead of Darlington on the depth chart.

    Nagbe seems to be one of the contributors in the failed 2018 cycle that isn't blamed.

    You know who started in Couva? Darlington Nabe. You know who started the terrible loss at home to Costa Rica? Darlington Nagbe. You know who started the disappointing draw with Honduras? Darlington Nabe. It's not like he wasn't given a shot in important games in that cycle.

    He started the quarterfinal, semifinal, and final of Gold Cup 2017 too.

    You know what happened? When the new cycle started after that failed 2018 campaign..................? First camp after that. First caps to McKennie and Adams in central midfield. We turned the page in central midfield. Some of those pages didn't work out (Yueill, Trapp, and company), but we turned the page nonetheless. Bradley held on a little bit but might not have if Adams was able to stay healthy in the summer/fall of 2019.
     

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