Worthy of a Real Tea Party

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by Chris M., Apr 20, 2010.

  1. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    The tea partiers all get to vote for representatives who in turn vote in Congress. Not so for 600,000 Americans:

    WASHINGTON - The District of Columbia has waited more than two centuries to get a vote in Congress, and now it looks like the city's roughly 600,000 residents will have to wait even longer.

    Majority Leader Steny Hoyer announced Tuesday that lawmakers will not take up legislation this week giving D.C. residents a vote in the House of Representatives, and said he was "profoundly disappointed."


    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36665822/ns/politics-capitol_hill/

    Weak-assed spineless congressional democrats strike again. With all of the unwarranted focus on "tea parties" this would be the perfect time to shine a light on this ridiculous situation where there is actual taxation without representation. With the majorities in both houses, this would be an ideal time to bring this to a vote.
     
  2. TxDynamo

    TxDynamo Member

    Feb 13, 2007
    Houston
    *crickets*

    So let me get this straight, they have no representative? If thats the case its a big time failure,even more than normal, on both sides.
     
  3. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Delaware County, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I actually agree with this--DC residents should have voting Congressional representation--that said, wouldn't it require amending the Constitution?? (At least to get voting representation in the Senate, and the lone House rep wouldn't make much of a difference anyway)

    If I'm a DC politician I play the "taxation without representation" card and go the other way--DC residents should pay federal taxes at 2/3 the rate of everyone else (they do vote for the executive branch and the judicial branch at the federal level is unelected).
     
  4. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    They are currently just talking about adding 2 representatives in the house. According to the article, congress passed a bill that was then never ratified by the states. I'm not 100% sure of the process, but I know the situation that has existed for more than 200 years is untenable. I could see reduced taxes or how about making them Virginia voters?
     
  5. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    You have it straight.

    They currently have a non-voting member of congress that holds zero power. Not sure if she sits on any committees but I'm sure she doesn't vote.
     
  6. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
    WTF does DC statehood have to do with the tea party movement? Talk about a weak tea.
     
  7. PhillyQuakesFan

    PhillyQuakesFan New Member

    Jun 25, 2007
    Delaware County, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well...how do they justify 2?? Montana, Delaware, South Dakota, Alaska, North Dakota, and Vermont all have more residents than DC (per Wikipedia)--Montana has almost 400k more--and all only have 1 Rep.

    Letting them vote in an adjacent state is a decent idea in theory except that will quickly turn into a partisan battle--Democrats will want them to vote in VA, Republicans in MD. And historically speaking, I believe most if not all of what currently makes up DC was originally part of Maryland--so from an objective point of view it would be difficult to justify having DC residents vote in Virginia.
     
  8. argentine soccer fan

    Staff Member

    Jan 18, 2001
    San Francisco Bay Area
    Club:
    CA Boca Juniors
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    What about the tea partiers who live in DC?
     
  9. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Who said anything about statehood. I want them to have a representative in congress.

    The question you SHOULD be asking (but I won't hold my breath) is what the tea party movement has to do with the historical tea party event.

    The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act for a variety of reasons, especially because they believed that it violated their right to be taxed only by their own elected representatives.

    Sounds a lot more like the current residents of DC than it does to some dickhead holding an Obama/hitler sign while he has his own representatives in congress.
     
  10. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    They don't. :D My mistake. I knew that the proposed bill would increase the house from 435 to 437 so I assumed it would add two in DC. The bill actually adds one in DC and one in Utah that would likely balance a democrat with a republican.
     
  11. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    That's funny. ;)
     
  12. VFish

    VFish Member+

    Jan 7, 2001
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Atlanta
     
  13. The Gribbler

    The Gribbler Member

    Jul 14, 1999
    Cedar Hill, Texas
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *Sigh*

    Lead a Dynamo fan to water...
     
  14. TxDynamo

    TxDynamo Member

    Feb 13, 2007
    Houston
    i prefer sweet tea but water will do i guess.
     
  15. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
     
  16. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
     
  17. ratdog

    ratdog Member+

    Mar 22, 2004
    In the doghouse
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The real irony is the the original tea party was a protest against a corporate tax cut! Not that teabaggers can be expected to know anything about American history, of course.
     
  18. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I got so sick of "taxation without representation" that I moved from DC to Virginia. So now I can vote to my heart's content. Hell of a lot of good it did me.
     
  19. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Teabaggers are a stupidface
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Y'all can hammer me, but the District should not have any vote for congress, at least as currently set up. What, precisely, will their representative be for? DC is a company town, and has less balance of interest than any place else in the US, hands down.
     
  21. wallacegrommit

    Sep 19, 2005
    Plus, any town where Kumar gets held up at gunpoint doesn't deserve a vote.
     
  22. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You've said this before, and it was stupid then, too. We let Alaska and Hawaii be states. Both are little more than colonial outposts--one for purely extractive industries, the other for strategic military bases.
     
  23. MtMike

    MtMike Member+

    Nov 18, 1999
    the 417
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just figured that DC residents reward in lieu of representation in congress was the premiere franchise in MLS.
     
  24. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's some quality snark, there. Ouch...
     
  25. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True story:

    A week or so ago I was talking to some co-workers and the subject of DC came up. Someone said that they'd seen a DC license plate and was surprised to find out that DC issued license plates (!). I asked if it said "Taxation without Representation" and they said yes, but they didn't understand why. They didn't even really understand what the District is. As I explained it, it was obvious that several people had never even thought about it.

    Sigh. It was discouraging, especially since I work at a non-profit where almost everyone is very educated and informed about the world and yet they knew next to nothing about their own capital city.
     

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