Wizards fined for wrong shorts

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by alf, Oct 10, 2003.

  1. alf

    alf Member+

    Jun 29, 1999
    Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    http://mlsnet.com/content/03/mls1010discipline.html

     
  2. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    so stupid.....
     
  3. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    The Wizards should have been fined many times over the years for playing such boring soccer.

    But this is just lame.
     
  4. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    And the Wizards finally got some tolerable kits too, now if they could only do something about that name and logo.....
     
  5. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    This from a league who has games played in Dragon Stadium. OH yeah, but white shorts! That's much harder on the eyes!
     
  6. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Did they fine LA for wearing green road shorts in chicago?

    This is ridiculous.
     
  7. crewcrazy17

    crewcrazy17 Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Medina
    Doesn't the league office have better things to do with their time? Maybe lending a hand to get the Metros out of Giants stadium of the Quakes out of San Jose. How about working on selling the league to the media? Cut out this petty crap and focus on the real issues!
     
  8. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    they did the same thing in the NFL a couple of weeks back to the Denver Broncos for wearing the wrong color pants. The NFL is notorious for being stringent about uniform codes, MLB is making a feeble attempt to do the same thing.
     
  9. UncleSam527

    UncleSam527 Member

    Jan 14, 2002
    What does it matter if the two teams can be told apart? Like someone said before, doesn't the league have better things to do?

    Also, with SEM doesn't this money basically go to the league anyway? What if the Wizards didn't pay it? The league would still get the money, right?...or maybe wrong, just a thought
     
  10. house18

    house18 Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    I would venture to say that this is more to keep teams from wearing different stuff every game. The teams probably have a home kit and road kit turned into the league at the start of the year and they have to wear that unless they get permission ahead of time. I think the bigger question is why do any of the teams wear the same color on jersey, shorts and socks...how bad does that look!?!?!?
     
  11. Snarf

    Snarf Member

    Oct 9, 2003
    Eagle Mountain, UT
    In the NFL with the Broncos it was different. San Diego asked the Broncos to wear their dark jerseys, because it was going to be hot in SD and they wanted to be able to wear their whites. Since San Diego was the home team, they could do that. The Broncos, however, showed up in SD with only their whites, necessitating the Chargers wear their dark blue jerseys. So, the Broncos double-crossed the Chargers to gain an advantage.

    The Wizards fine, however, involved no such thing. Just stupid policy. Really dumb.
     
  12. StevenPrada

    StevenPrada Member

    Jan 26, 2001
    Photo's at Andy Mead's site: http://www.ibiblio.org/footy/2003/1004_kc_col_ycj.php

    Both Colorado and the Wizards were wearing the same color shorts. That's a no-no. The referee's need different color shirts, shorts, and socks to better call the game. Speaking as a referee myself, I've found that it does help.

    It's somewhat implied in Law 4 in US Soccer's advice to referee's (http://www.ussoccer.com/templates/includes/services/referees/pdfs/Advice2001.pdf) and should be spelled out in the competition guidelines (I couldn't find the ones for MLS). It's generally ignored at the rec level, but enforced at competitive levels.
     
  13. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is ridiculous! In some piddly little tournament called the World Cup teams have worn the same color shorts. How about when Paraguay's change kit was a burnt orange, with white socks and shorts, and they played Spain who wore red jerseys with dark blue shorts and socks? The jersey colors were pretty close, even if it was different from the waist down. That was a lot worse than the Rapids and Whizzers wearing white shorts. If anything, they should have made Colorado bring their black shorts.

    I saw KC a couple of weeks ago in blue with the white shorts vs LA, and I thought it looked a hell of a lot better than the all-blue look.

    MLS needs to get a life. Spend your energy on something worthwhile, like referee training courses.

    Tom
     
  14. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever. Those photos make it patently obivious that the colors woudl make ZERO difference in trying to call or play the game. MLS teams could be lit up like the Midnight Cowboy and the refs are still going to call the random games they always do.
    GOD forbid a team try and mix their colors up and break up the monotone solid darks v solid whites we are treated to every frigging game.

    Exactly - the same organisation that green-lighted the move to Dragon stadium is now concerned with the aesthetics of blue jersey and white shorts. NO team in the league wears a dark jersey and white shorts - who can they be confused with. Everton?
     
  15. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    http://www.ussoccer-data.com/docfile/MLShb03.pdf

    The handbook is there. I couldn't find the "matrix" but it clearly says that they get a grid at the beginning of the season and get an update with their game guide.

    It's not like things like this are MLS-specific. All leagues do this. In fact, I'd say MLS is probably one of the least restrictive based on reports of fines in the NBA and NFL.

    The switch wasn't that big of a deal, but I don't see why enforcing a rule should cause such consternation.
     
  16. 352gialloblu

    352gialloblu New Member

    Jun 16, 2003
    England
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think it was more an issue of both teams wearing white shorts, and MLS having told KC to wear blue, and not any asthetic sense that is the issue here. Hopefully, KC will try next year to make blue shirts, white shorts their No. 1 kit, and then we'll see if MLS has an asthetic problem. If they do then , screw 'em...
     
  17. Mike T

    Mike T Member

    May 21, 2002
    Miami
    I definitely second that.
     
  18. MrZedd

    MrZedd New Member

    Jul 18, 2003
    oh yeah!

    Wallace and Gromit Rock!
     
  19. ignatz

    ignatz New Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Has Wizards managment offered any reason why they made the change?
     
  20. CrewToon

    CrewToon Member

    Jun 13, 1999
    Greenbrier Farm
    Wrong shorts?

    This fine is beyond stupid.
     
  21. CyphaPSU

    CyphaPSU Member+

    Mar 16, 2003
    Not Far
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Wizards should be fined for that awful logo design...and name
     
  22. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Brooklyn, NY
    "Consternation"? How long have you been waiting for an opportunity to write that word in a sentence?
     
  23. paulocesar

    paulocesar Member

    Oct 4, 2000
    So shouldn't you all email MLS headquarters and tell them how stupid their decision was??

    After all, they keep saying "Its your game."

    Then again, these clowns in suits don't know *#*#*#*# about the game, so i have no faith in that they'll listen to people that actually do.

    What a stupid fine!?!?
     
  24. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The actual matrix is on page 73 of the manual that Monster provided. And in typical MLS fashion, even they don't have it right. According to the manual, the Metros wear red socks with their white shorts/jerseys for all away games. I have never seen this combo, but maybe a Metro fan can verify if they have ever worn something other than all-white. Also, it says the Revs are in blue socks with their blue jerseys and shorts, when they haven't worn that since 2001.

    The whole thing is too silly for it's own good. As long as there isn't a color clash, let them wear whatever.

    Tom
     

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