Why is Brazil such a football superpower?

Discussion in 'World Cup 2014: General' started by Snoop-a-luh, Jun 28, 2014.

  1. Snoop-a-luh

    Snoop-a-luh Member

    Jun 22, 2014
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    I want to know from you guys, why is Brazil such a powerhouse? Why do people hate on the Brazilian squad so much?
     
  2. marcelocv

    marcelocv New Member

    Jun 28, 2014
    I don't think its hate.

    It's about our technically poor team compared to others WC, which it's upsetting some foreigners (and brazilians).

    I fear Brazil will never have some many outstanding players like before. Our Brasileirão is being badly managed year by year and our best players are going overseas too young.
     
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  3. Rickdog

    Rickdog Member+

    Jun 16, 2010
    Santiago, Chile
    Club:
    CD Colo Colo
    Nat'l Team:
    Chile
    After how your fans at the stadium disrespected the singing of our national anthem, before the match started between both of our teams, you've really won it this time (at least from a chilean perspective, now, it is hate)
     
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  4. little airplane

    little airplane Red Card

    Jun 5, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    We? youre from peru ffs
     
  5. little airplane

    little airplane Red Card

    Jun 5, 2014
    Club:
    AC Milan
    #5 little airplane, Jun 29, 2014
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    Brazil is a powerhouse becuase its all Brazlians have did for years { amongst other things } in the street from a young age, Brazlians play. Its what they do. Its in their blood and often its all some have - to be able to play football. When its all you do you get good at it and technically at a young age the brazlians are the best.

    As for the hate, well many people just dont want to see the same teams win all the time. Thats all. Hate in that respect. This team isnt like past Brazilian teams at least at this stage and as the above said the jeering during the chilean national anthem was disrespectful but others have did this also.

    [mods note - personal attacks are also disrespectful]
     
  6. rios

    rios Member

    Jun 9, 2006
    Club:
    Villarreal CF
    ya that sht was not cool at all
     
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  7. Tukafo

    Tukafo Member+

    Oct 12, 2013
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    I actually think Brazil in general get very little hate, especially here in Europe where they traditionally have been very popular and get very high ratings during broadcasts. It seems the hate mainly comes from other South American rivals. I never encountered a single European football fan that hates Brazil. Sure, sometimes Europeans might cheer for a team like Chile to beat them but that's not hate but simply the fairly normal tendency to support underdogs.
    As to why Brazil have been so good in the past? What sports a country excels in is usually a combination of tradition and the standing of the sport in the country. Why are New Zealand so strong in Rugby? Why is the Czech Republic so strong in Ice Hockey? Why are the West Indies so strong in Cricket? Because those sports have a huge meaning and tradition in those countries and young talents are more likely to play them than other sports.
     
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  8. Pigs

    Pigs Member

    Everton FC
    England
    Mar 31, 2001
    Everywhere and nowhere
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Brazil is a football mad country with 200 million people. That's one reason.

    Brazil has always been well liked in England, although they might have lost a few fans after the Rivaldo incident.
     
  9. Wolfie65

    Wolfie65 Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Albuquerque, NM
    I'm also not aware of any 'hate' towards Brazil, quite the opposite, but I'm sure many South Americans are probably fed up with losing to this soccer giant time & time again.
    Some people - myself included - are maybe a little disappointed that Brazil seem to have abandoned the 'Samba' style of the 1970's and earlier, and now play very similar to most European teams. I think the last time I saw a Brazilian player dribble, futvolei and magic trick his way through 3, 4 or more defenders was around 1982.......
    It's been long passes and hard tackles since.
    Might as well watch Germany vs. Scotland.
     
  10. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Brazil is a superpower because it's got the largest population of any traditional soccer nation. It's the same reason that Germany is a superpower and Poland is not, why England is better than Scotland, why the US is better than Canada, why Mexico is better than Honduras.
     
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  11. Zincubus

    Zincubus Member

    Jun 3, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona

    I'd like to know why they lack top quality forwards like the old days .

    Neymar stands out like a beacon , Hulk was decent yesterday but when Fred is a fixture up front you know you're in trouble .

    Brasil haven't got a chance of winning the WC because of that and the fact they have very little midfield invention and creativity .

    Why on earth they didn't take Liverpool's Coutinho I will never know !!
     
  12. Snoop-a-luh

    Snoop-a-luh Member

    Jun 22, 2014
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Fred is in the squad because he is one Scolari's favorites. I agree with you and he should not be in the NT.
     
  13. Zincubus

    Zincubus Member

    Jun 3, 2009
    Club:
    FC Barcelona

    I just presumed that Fred was married to Scolari's daughter or something .
     
  14. Distorted Humor

    Jun 26, 2014
    Club:
    --other--
    It is a soccer crazy country of 200 million. Also they have developed good ways to locate talented youngsters and get them good coaching. Though they don't seem as strong as they have in the past.

    Why hate them, - that is easy, I root for Argentina and Chile.
     
  15. Horseshoe

    Horseshoe Member

    Jun 25, 2014
    No hating here. We have loved the Brazilian team for years, partly because our dear coach "Z," short for Zequinha (José Márcio Pereira da Silva), who coached both of my kids, was a Brazilian football player who imparted a love for the game in them. Also very very nice guy and always insisted our kids root for Brazil. :)
     
  16. Wolfie65

    Wolfie65 Member

    Jun 16, 2010
    Albuquerque, NM
    Population does matter, but there are exceptions. The Netherlands (14 million) have been oh so very close to 3 WC titles, Belgium (10 million) aren't exactly slouches, Uruguay (3.5 million) may have a food shortage, forcing some of their players to look for greener, erm, pastures, but they're pretty good, too.
    Teams from countries like Croatia, Bosnia, Slovenia, Hungary may wilt in the freewheeling tropical climate and atmosphere of Brazil, but they'll feel right at home 4 years from now. None of them have large populations, but it only takes 11 guys, they do have that many.
    Aside from the fact that counting medals isn't really what the Olympic Games are supposed to be about, Norway (4 million) are embarrassing everyone else, last time I looked, they were actually leading the overall Winter Olympics medal count. Switzerland (6 million) and Austria (7.5 million) aren't bad, either.
    I hear Aussie (15 million) account very well for themselves in the Summer Games.
     
  17. el profe

    el profe New Member

    Jun 29, 2014
    Club:
    Deportes Tolima
    So good coaching is the brazilian secret?
     
  18. Bonizzoni

    Bonizzoni Member

    May 4, 2004
    São Paulo - Brasil
    Club:
    Olympique de Marseille
    Nat'l Team:
    Turkmenistan
    No! :p

    Most developed countries have fields where boys can play there. In Brazil we usually play at futsal courts or streets, and most professional players came from that background. At futsal/street you have less space, so you must learn to do some tricks and play smartly.
     
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  19. Hexa

    Hexa Member

    May 21, 2010
    Club:
    Vasco da Gama Rio Janeiro
    Not sure if this is an urban legend but another day in a Sport shown on TV, a soccer pundit was saying Brazil got to be what Brazil is for football because of the 1958 Cup.

    They said that the way we played, which was a sharp contrast to the European game, capture the attention and the imagination of European public it seems that the public even chanted "Brazil, Brazil" thus it was the first time we had you country acknowledge for a country that produces something other than tropical commodities.
    Back in Brazil this story resonated with the mass so people stated to play the game and it became our national game.


    I have no clue if this is true but I liked this story

    ps.: I do not think Brazil is a super power. A super power wouldn't stay 24 years without a title. We are not like US in basketball. I think football do not have a super power and that is one of its main attrition to me.
     
  20. El Chuma

    El Chuma BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 17, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So Brazil booed Chile's national anthem?
     
  21. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    Cross-post (my 2c):

    Basically Brazil is the country with 5th highest population in the world, performing relatively underwhelming at other sports. Then also the country with 6th or 7th highest GDP, with big foreign investments in football as small bonus.
    Still, they over-perform a bit according to the soccernomics book.
     
  22. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    It's certainly to please me. Yes, even before I was born, Brazil was already winning titles in order to please it´s future most important person ever. I am that self-centered. :)


    seriously... I think one reason for that is that Brazil doesn´t have a speficic doctrine on how the game should be played. Brazil does everything to WIN. We lost 1982. What did we do? Let´s continue with this style because it pleases foreigners? NO. We changed style so we could win it again.

    I think the trauma of 1950 may have played a part in Brazil's obsession with the World Cup.

    In 1958, Brazil took a full team including dentists, psychologists, etc, etc, to Sweden.

    Tim Vickery says Zagallo was absolutelly surprised when Vickery told him that England did not even took a doctor. So yes, Brazil was ahead of it´s time in physical preparation.

    The "flamboyant" Brazilian style always hid some truths about Brazil, like the fact Brazil has the best defense of all countries in the World Cup (least average goals conceded). That brazilian players were usually very good athletes, with good stamina and speed, that Brazil plays to win, not to please the eyes of foreigners. If BOTH can be achieved, good, if not, the most important of the two is winning it.
     
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  23. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Brazil is one of the best volleyballing countries on the planet, and was the absolute best for a 15 years period.


    foreign investments in football?
     
  24. AcesHigh

    AcesHigh Member+

    Nov 30, 2005
    Novo Hamburgo
    Club:
    Gremio Porto Alegre
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    no, idiots at the stadium did. It´s a parcel of the population of Belo Horizonte. I saw however tons of brazilians regretting the behavior on the internet. So, did Brazil booed Chile´s national anthemn or did brazilians thought that action regretabble? Who are more "brazilian"?

    I think this may be a myth. Most players start already as kids playing mostly on football pitches, in soccer schools or clubs children divisions.

    a minority of professionals played at futsal courts or played for long on "the street".
     
  25. PuckVanHeel

    PuckVanHeel Member+

    Oct 4, 2011
    Club:
    Feyenoord
    That's the exception, as well as motor racing and the scarce world class swimmer.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_at_the_Olympics

    Certainly. Brazilian football is the type of entity that attracts this.
     

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