Who will win Copa Libertadores

Re: Final Eight: Who will win Copa Libertadores

Winning 3-0 in the Maracana, thousands of miles away from home, and overturning a 4-2 deficit in the process, takes some nerve - and if América can show the same kind of effort from now on, they might have a chance of bettering both Pachuca's Sulamericana win and Cruz Azul's second-place Libertadores finish, and winning the Copa in 2008.

Maybe.


But then, I'm an Irishman stuck on the other side of the world, and one who admittedly is less familiar with the intricacies of club football south of the Canal, so I wouldn't advise paying too much heed to my opinion on this...

 

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Would it not have been the case that people thought that 'Mexican teams don't win Sulamericana' up until Pachuca went and won the thing in 2006?


No reason to say that a team from Mexico won't win one eventually - or even this year.

 

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Mexican teams don't win libertadores because of institutional resistance from southamericans. Cheating of all sorts from bad calls to last minute rule changes.

 

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If this is true, how much of this impeded Cruz Azul on their run to the finals in 2001?

(And even then, Azul lost on penalties, having overturned a deficit they suffered in the home leg against Boca.)

I get it...

But are the bigger clubs from Mexico, like América, Atlas and Chivas, not seen as worthy rivals to the bigger South American clubs?

One would have thought that the Mexican league was perhaps in a more powerful position than the Ecuadorian one...

...unless you are going with more tongue-in-cheek humour with me.

 

Re: COPA LIB, after the grp stage - R & comments

not in 2008!

do you remember last time he was out for injury problems?

 

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Are they still using the rule that if 2 teams from the same country get to the semifinals they'll play each other??

 

Re: Final Eight: Who will win Copa Libertadores

yes

 

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Atlas is a bigger club? there are 4 big mexican clubs: Chivas America Cruz Azul and Pumas. Toluca and pachuca are powerful clubs that make up what they lack in fame and fans with results. Monterrey and Tigres have lots of money, and still are mediocre performers. any other club is really a medium to small club...
in my experience mexicans are seen as worthy (if not always wanted by some fans) adversaries, all of this "institutional conspiracy" is bullshit, a championship team will win against whatever adversary, even if he wears a suit in asuncion or a whistle on the pitch. and thats not to say im at all convinced of a supposed plan to screw mexico over. mexicans dont win copa lib only because they havent yet. i think (maybe i just hope?) most people would agree its only a matter of time.

but not this year.

Atlas is a well oiled machine, and brindisi is a good tactitian and motivator, but how about they set their eyes on winning a national title that most of the fans can remember first? then dream big. they were just eliminated from the clausura by necaxa, so on one side copa lib is all they have to play for, but on the other, if they cant win mexico, i doubt they can win copa lib.

America is far too....************, this yr anyways. they were dead last in clausura, and there was never even a fight really to not come in last, america really owned the basement of the standings this semester. the upset at brasil was an unbelieveable miracle. you only get one miracle per tournament (new rule). but in all seriousness, you cant win a title by having 9 players run around in circles while ochoa and cabañas do their thing.

my pick is san lorenzo. honestly beliving you are destined to win it goes a big way, as ASF said.

 

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They = Marcelo Tinelli

 

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Yes but in the end that's irrelevant. Since the Mexican clubs started participating there has been a winner from Colombia and a winner from Paraguay. Those leagues aren't better than the Mexican one yet clubs from them still won it while no Mexican team has.

 

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for a Irish man,you know your South American/Mexican futbol pretty good,I am impressed.

This rule is dumb and I think it takes away the "prestige"of the tournament.Let the best teams play the final dammit rather than having teams switch brackets.

I think alot has to do with Mexican teams not "respecting this tournament"when Mexican teams qualify for the liguilla they tend to pay more attention to the liguilla then Libertadores and Sudamerica....which is dumb IMO. Libertadores>Liguilla>SudAmerica

 

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U are one Cocky Argento....I hope you know if Boca does not beat Atlas, expect Mexicans making fun of you in BS for years to come.

 

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Boca wont because they can´t play in Bombonera

I put my money on SP

 

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Hey is the rule changed about refuerzos or no more?

 

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I heard Club America wanted to pick up Paraguayan Veron from Pumas

 

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That's old news, Pumas already said that if they want him they have to buy him.

 

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From the last couple of Libertadores tourneys, don't you guys feel like these teams representing Mexico are probably the least equipped to actually win the title? America is coming from the worst situation in their history, and Atlas is showing a lot of balls, but they have a whole bunch of young guys that do not have any experience playing in tournaments like this one. I can't remember a situation like this. Over the years I had the feeling that at least one team had a legitimate shot at the title. Hopefully, I'm completely wrong and Atlas wins it all.