Who Was Sampson's Judas?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by bmurphyfl, Sep 5, 2002.

  1. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In the most recent Soccer America, there is an article about the coaching mess at UCLA over the last year. It says in the article that Sampson was considered by the Associate Athletic Director to be the most qualified candidate for the job. However, sources say that two former Bruin players who had also played for Sampson didn't give Sampson glowing reviews when UCLA called them.

    So, who stuck it to Sampson? I'm thinking Cobi and Friedel nailed him. Any other ideas.

    JUDASSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! [<---------Bob Dylan bootleg reference]

    Murf
     
  2. geordienation

    geordienation Moderator

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
    Club:
    Newcastle United FC
    Sampson is hated by so many people, narrowing the field is a futile exercise.
     
  3. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But how many players played at UCLA and also under Sampson at any point? Friedel, Cobi, Henderson, ???

    Murf
     
  4. WHOLMAN2

    WHOLMAN2 New Member

    Dec 4, 2000
    Lahs Angeleez
    Hejduk
    Caligiuri
    Balboa
     
  5. bmurphyfl

    bmurphyfl Member

    Jun 10, 2000
    VT
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, I guess if they wanted to keep their phone bills low, they could have called Caligiuri and Cobi but Friedel would seem to have been a good person to call because he also played under Fitzgerald in Columbus. He could have given the AD feedback on both coaches.

    Murf
     
  6. StingRay37

    StingRay37 Member

    Dec 4, 2000
    North Carolina
    I thought Balboa played at San Diego State?
     
  7. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    I believe you are right. So did Wynalda.
     
  8. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think they have a shift system set up with people on call rotating weekends.
     
  9. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If these unnamed perpetrators fill the role of Judas, then Steve Sampson would be whom? That metaphor's a bit of a stretch. A better analogy might be Sampson as the incompetent platoon leader who gets fragged by his own troops.

    Need I remind you: Steve Sampson is the worst coach in the history of sports, at any time, at any level, anywhere in the world, ever.
     
  10. CrewDust

    CrewDust Member

    May 6, 1999
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wynalda played at Santa Clara.
     
  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Actually, on the whole, he did a pretty good job. Maybe not up to Scotty Bowman standards, but still a pretty good job. He did "screw the pooch" over the whole World Cup thing, but his career as US National Team coach was relatively successful on the pitch.
     
  12. dheck

    dheck Member

    Sep 20, 1999
    Chapel Hill, NC, USA
    No, empennage was correct, Wynalda played at San Diego State. So did Balboa.

    I got confirmation here.
     
  13. empennage

    empennage Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Phoenix, AZ
    Thanks for the backup.
     
  14. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sampson = Sgt. Hulka

    Wynalda = John Winger
     
  15. SoFla Metro

    SoFla Metro Member

    Jul 21, 2000
    Ft. Lauderdale, FL
    My name's Francis, but nobody calls me Francis. Call me Psycho. Anybody calls me Francis, and I'll kill ya.
     
  16. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Lighten up Francis...
     
  17. Ian Lozada

    Ian Lozada New Member

    May 29, 2001
    The Pick Four Pool
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "I wanna party with you, cowboy."
     
  18. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Quoting a Bill Murray joke fits just about every situation doesn't it?
     
  19. Northcal19

    Northcal19 New Member

    Feb 18, 2000
    Celtic Tavern LODO (
    This is what would be called a minority opinion.
     
  20. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, we got to the semifinals of the Copa in '95. And he qualified with a game in hand for WC '98.
     
  21. pething101

    pething101 Member

    Jul 31, 2001
    Smyrna, Ga
    Club:
    West Ham United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It just doesn't matter ... it just doesn't matter ...
     
  22. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess you've never followed the Boston Red Sox?
     
  23. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Being a bad manager is a job requirement for the Red Sox. It takes great skill to accomplish. If I were the manager, I would spend 8-10 hours a day figuring out ways to screw things up just perfectly in order to keep my job.
     
  24. eric_appleby

    eric_appleby Member+

    Jun 11, 1999
    Down East
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Maybe they just gave a fair and honest assesment of the man. They told the truth and it was hell for Sampson. How is that being a Judas?
     
  25. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United
    Aug 3, 2000
    Raleigh, NC
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Technically, yes. He did a great job at Copa America '95. We did not play Copa America '97, and I think that was a mistake, but it would have screwed up the MLS season, so maybe it wasn't a bad tradeoff. The win against Brazil. The drew Mexico during qualifying. A few other decent friendly results. Of course SS really mucked up France '98. It wasn't all his fault by any means. Part of it rests on the players' shoulders. However, Kuwait, Macedonia, and Scotland are not exactly good preparation for a World Cup. The whole player revolt, the John Harkes mismanagement, isolation in the French countryside...all major ***************ups. I think his ego grew over time and he became disconnected from his players. This is all speculation, but that's definitely the impression I got. A disciplinarian, authoritarian, rigid type of coach. Not a player's coach at all. He thought maybe he was bigger than the program and it was all about him. It wasn't. Still, I was very disappointed in players who publicly criticized him like Waldo, Harkes, Ramos, and Lalas.

    In short, he did a great job of bringing a beautiful lady to the dance. Then he showed up drunk.
     

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