White Supremacy: A Discussion. What is it, and how to identify it.

I was reflecting on the Christianity part yesterday while I was out walking. I'm guessing most White Supremacists are Protestant/Fundamentalist rather than Catholic. I'm guessing you would find a lot more White Supremacists in the Southern Baptist church than in an average evangelical church. My hunch is White Supremacists are probably anti-Catholic as well, although their hatred doesn't seem to be directed that way for the most part, given the others are more immediate targets.

It seems to me that they preach American-inspired forms of Christianity from the early 1800s. This means it would be anti-black, anti-gay, anti-Semite, anti-Catholic. A great example of the societal beliefs regarding race from that time is in 2 Nephi 5 in the Book of Mormon. Joseph Smith espoused the biological determinism beliefs of the early 1800s in discussing the "Lamanite" curse by associating dark-skin with being lazy, "uncivilized", deceitful, etc. I'm not here saying all Mormons are white supremacists, of course, but that the cultural worldview of the early 1800s, which is consistent with white supremacy, did find its way into the Book of Mormon.

It was in the 1970s and 1980s that white conservative Christian Protestants began to see Catholics as an ally in fighting abortion and gay rights. But I can easily see that alliance falling apart once those issues have been "dealt" with.

 

Talk about white supremacy and homophobia.

That sounds similar to I believe Uganda, where people that advocate for gay rights are called Colonialists.

https://www.economist.com/asia/2022...is-beginning-to-accept-same-sex-relationships

 

Like porn - you know it when you see it

Rand Paul and Mo Brooks address a very diverse crowd at their rally today. pic.twitter.com/HQVVZQBvJh

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) June 18, 2022

 

They are diverse. Some were born at the beginning of the Great Depression some were born during the Korean War

 

One poster has already tried to expand the topic to societies that are not White. White supremacy is a specific thing, like red velvet cake, and adding to it dilutes the topic. Sheezmad wants to talk about every kind of cake whenever this sort of thing comes up. I could correct at every instance, but I think others should take up that sword with me.

I'm saying that if African societies (as brought into the thread a few posts before yours) are practicing some kind of discrimination, it needs to be dealt with in a thread created for that purpose... "Homophobia in African societies" or something.

You aren't the perp, you're just the one who replied to me.

 

Interesting tags

Tags:

• homophobia
  
• racism
  
• sexism
  
• trump
  
• white supremacy

 

Sexism and homophobia can be practiced by just about anyone. If y'all can manage to focus on 2, 4, and 5, I might drop in and drop knowledge.

 

Yes, they can. But white supremacists specifically target Pride events and LGBT+ individuals, regardless of race, as well as Jews. Such activities show that White Supremacy is more than just being about race. Yes, the race aspect arguably has the longest and most visible history in the US, but that doesn't mean the other aspects are not integral as well.

If it were just about race, we could call it overt racism. But it's more than extreme overt racism, it's early 19th century American interpretations of the Bible brought into the modern world in order to elevate straight white Christians and eliminate or suppress others.

If we can't include homophobia and anti-Semitism into White Supremacy, then how do we explain their chants in Charlottesville and their intent in Coeur d'Alene? Those were not about race.

 

Oh look - they hate you. Maybe it's time to become Log Cabin Libertarians

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it is all very proscriptive to appeal to a feeling of certainty/security. Gender roles in and outside of marriage, sexuality, and the sometimes implicit/sometimes explicit notion of racial hierarchy. In denominations where scripture is inerrant and beyond question where faith alone offers salvation, the more likely one is to see these things.

Anything that leads to questioning of that religious narrative and general certainty is an adversary: women’s issues, racial issues, LGBTQ issues, academia, the “cosmopolitans”, moral relativism, accounts of US history that paint the nation in a less than completely flattering light, etc.

It’s not easy to disaggregate because the premise is based upon absolute moral and spiritual authority that is not open to internal of external critique.

If you’re trying to make someone feel good and confident about the spiritual directions he/she has taken in a largely conservative and white denomination, there is no room for those other things outside of maybe a bit of tokenism with some “good” gays, Hispanic, Black members who likely suffer from Stockholm syndrome. It reverts to a greatest hits of God, guns, flag, family, “common sense” and the “good old days” in a war against any sort of change.

 

If "Had it coming" was a photo..

 

If only there were some clue Republicans were homophobic! What's next, Republicans turning out to be racists as well - Diamond and Silk will be shocked

 

lFriday news….

NASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Southern Baptist Convention says it is under investigation by Department of Justice.

— Mike Balsamo (@MikeBalsamo1) August 12, 2022

 

I think 19th Century Biblicists is perfectly catchy. It echoes the right's "strict constructionist" or "originalist" self identification monikers perfectly.

 

He was a fine, fine player, but supreme? I think not.

 

Now this guy, he might have been supreme.

 

This guy was literally supreme.

 

He as well

 

1. My favorite player as a child.
2. His last name isn’t White.

 

Ok. I have no idea what you're on about, Dave. Because your post in #44 is Frank White.

 

He's trolling you. Those guys aren't White. One isn't even named White, as he pointed out.

In his mind, White supremacy doesn't exist.