When to end the match

Discussion in 'Referee' started by voiceoflg, Jun 14, 2021.

  1. Spencedawgmillionaire

    Mar 2, 2017
    Belleville, ILLLLLLLLINOIZE
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Ok, I guess somewhere I picked up the idea that it had to be "whole minutes"

    Another tool for my box. Thanks!
     
  2. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Nothing in the Laws says whole minutes. Standard practice in professional games is to use whole minutes, which is likely where you got the impression.
     
  3. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    I'm going to add the square root of -1 minutes, so that i will always be right.
     
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  4. voiceoflg

    voiceoflg Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    You expect many referees to understand a math joke?

    Full disclosure, I did. But I regularly help my daughter with homework.
     
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  5. JeffG

    JeffG Member

    Mar 9, 2005
    MN, USA
    I imagine that many more referees will get it than you think!
     
  6. Gary V

    Gary V Member+

    Feb 4, 2003
    SE Mich.
    i got it ;)

    A math major here. The highest form of math I used for soccer was the Pythagorean theorem
    a^2 + b^2 = c^2
    to figure out distances in relation to the goal, PK mark and PA.
     
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  7. voiceoflg

    voiceoflg Member+

    Dec 8, 2005
    I was great in math until the alphabet decided to get involved.
     
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  8. djmtxref

    djmtxref Member

    Apr 8, 2013
    We have a high school coach who will yell about Pythagoras if refs mess up the 10 yards.
     
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  9. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  10. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pythagoras comes in very handy on American football fields! i taught Math at Community College level for 4 years after retiring from my other life!
     
  11. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I had many coaches yell at me that had nothing to do with math! :whistling:
     
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  12. LampLighter

    LampLighter Red Card

    Bugeaters FC
    Apr 13, 2019
    I can't count to eleven so on the field I keep counting three threes and a two.
     
  13. IASocFan

    IASocFan Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2000
    IOWA
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #38 IASocFan, Jun 16, 2021
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2021
    Too complicated! I eye 10 yards and set the wall (only when needed). Rarely, I have been asked by defenders and attackers to walk off 10 yards. In that case, I take very large or very small steps depending on who doubts my 10 yards. Frequently, then I will move the wall up or back depending on who questioned me. I have never had a second request!

    Edit: On the original question, I end the game or half when I think time is over. I don't look at my watch in the middle of a promising attack, until there is a pause in the action. Frequently with just a few seconds left, I decide that when the team with the ball loses it, I am blowing for time. If a team is taking their time with a throw-in, corner kick, or goal kick, I may call the game or half, while the ball is not in play. At half-time, I will wait for any ball out of touch to be chased, so I don't have to go get it.
     
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  14. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    I ignore the requests to walk it off--but they are very rare anyway.
     
  15. Dayton Ref

    Dayton Ref Member+

    May 3, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I've found it is faster and more accurate to count players like a phone number (3) 3-4 +keeper and move in clusters across the field.
     
  16. SCV-Ref

    SCV-Ref Member

    Spurs
    Australia
    Feb 22, 2018
    Haha...unreal.
     
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  17. Spencedawgmillionaire

    Mar 2, 2017
    Belleville, ILLLLLLLLINOIZE
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    The fact that you guys are rarely getting that request is astounding to me. I get that request constantly, even when it's right at 10 and they still insist. I oblige by counting very loudly and usually am with a 1/4 step.

    Depending on the league, I might even turn around and say "ten, ten, perfect steps exactly, mmmkay?" hahahah
     
  18. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    YMMV, but I don't let players decide how I determine 10.
     
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  19. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    I have almost a habit of snidely reminding the players, "It's a gridiron football field, guys. We know where 10 yards are." That's when they sheepishly look down at the other colored lines on the field. :)
     
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  20. Kit

    Kit Member+

    Aug 30, 1999
    Herkimer, NY, USA
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was fine with math until they introduced imaginary numbers. We can't find the square root of negative numbers so we are going to make something up?
     
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  21. Dayton Ref

    Dayton Ref Member+

    May 3, 2012
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Years ago I had a jerk, in the wall, who insisted that I walk off 10 at one point. So I walked it off, ended right next to him and told him to get off the field, he was wearing a necklace. His team played short because it wasn't a substitution opportunity.
     
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  22. roby

    roby Member+

    SIRLOIN SALOON FC, PITTSFIELD MA
    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    I had a 2 1/2' normal stride. 12 steps often received comments. When on a fiber optic job plotting a route on a RR ROW I marked the rail every 100'. I was the only one not using a surveyor's wheel. 40 steps! :thumbsup:
     
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  23. Law5

    Law5 Member+

    Mar 24, 2005
    Beaverton OR
    It wasn't a 10 yards situation, but I had a men's league player yapping at me about a decision, when play was stopped for something like retrieving the ball for a goal kick. I gave him a sentence or two and then I looked at his knee, which had a bit of a rug burn. "You have to get that covered." He turned around and asked his teammates if they had the first aid kit, and he left the field. A friend who is a National Assessor happened to be watching the game and gave me big props for how I handled the guy.
     
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  24. refjack951

    refjack951 Member

    Nov 25, 2018
    I was doing a very competitive U19 boys game where the attackers would "fluff" the ball forward and the defenders would encroach. Got tired of the antics quickly. Next stoppage the attackers were asking for 10 and while they thought my back was turned they "fluffed" forward a couple yards. I set the defenders at 15+yds from the point of infraction and the defenders were complaining about both my version of 10 and the attackers moving forward. To which I replied, "just wait till I deal with them". I want to the ball, picked it up and moved it 5yd further back from the point of infraction giving about 20+yds of separation. Both sides started to laugh a bit and say no no when I asked both sides if anyone else wanted to either encroach or move the ball from the appointed spot.

    I found out post game I was being assessed and my assessor thought it was a good way to send the message to both sides to cut the crap and focus on play.

    In HS boys, I've had defenders encroach and usually all it takes is a reminder we're on a pointy ball field. But there's often that one smart aleck guy who says "where's 10" and I'm not beyond a snide remark about his poor math skills or possibly being to dumb to play football.
     
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  25. frankieboylampard

    Mar 7, 2016
    USA
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Lol i see what you did there!
     

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