When is 'mission accomplished' ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by DJPoopypants, Jun 29, 2005.

  1. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Ok, is there some way to know what our mission is, and when its accomplished?

    I'm really serious here. Unless we figure out how to know if we are winning, losing, or staying the same - are we just like a dog chasing its tail?

    I hear sometimes that we would win when Iraq is a stable democracy - but what the heck is that? If the insurgents take a 3 month vacation, do we declare victory and not care when the terrorists come back all ready for more?

    I worry sometimes. In the cold war, we had the military-industrial complex. Companies made $$ by making sure our military was supplied with better weapons than the russians. We called them defense contractors. Nowadays - these aeronautics companies are having hard times. The big winner is Halliburton. How do they make money? Well, when the US military goes somewhere and blows stuff up, they make their money on rebuilding, security, catering, etc. Does this suggest that we're in for decades of contractors with a vested interest in the USA blowing stuff up and causing trouble/violence? Cuz if so, we ain't gonna win in Iraq or anywhere else anytime soon.
     
  2. URwormfood

    URwormfood Member

    Mar 24, 2004
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    Iraq opens its first Pizza-Hut...the locals go crazy for that stuffed-crust...sales go through the roof...Other companies see this and start a major invest in Iraq....Club-med opens up a resort...and it turns out to be the top vacation spot for the mid-east.

    'mission accomplished'

    :D

    ~worm~
     
  3. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
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    Defining Mission Accomplished is like defining pornography....
     
  4. Sine Pari

    Sine Pari Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    NUNYA, BIZ
    There are Pizza Huts there

    And Subways

    So it's over ?

    ;)
     
  5. URwormfood

    URwormfood Member

    Mar 24, 2004
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    Yeah...someone gets screwed in the end!

    :rolleyes:

    ~worm~
     
  6. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    This is what you meant, right?

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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
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    See my new sig.
     
  8. IntheNet

    IntheNet New Member

    Nov 5, 2002
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    I would be tempted to reply that "mission accomplished" means when the War on Terror is complete; but lately it is becoming increasingly obvious that "mission accomplished" means when the liberals finally accept the truth! That date seems far off, based on current assessments.
     
  9. Danwoods

    Danwoods Member

    Mar 20, 2000
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    Bummer, I guess we'll be in Iraq until there are no terrorists left in the world. It's a good thing we didn't establish a timetable on that one.
     
  10. Revolt

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    Jun 16, 1999
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    More comedy magic! Can someone please restart the 'Senate vote on lynching' thread so ITN can work some more magic by once again taking up the pro-lynching side?
     
  11. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    We won Saddam's and there regime is over and they are not comming back regime is over.

    There is a new government in place. They don't have the power as of yet to protect themselves and put this uprising down. Their army is being trained to do that. It should be done in less then 2 years maybe a yr and a half. They want us out, but they also want to stop any outsiders and sunnis from taking over there governement. I am sure just enough US will remain to call in air strikes for them so we can kill them in bunches.

    Then when they rule themselves we will see many more iraqi die then are dying now. Because they do not care how many innocent victims die and the insugents don't car either. So the iraqi themselves will put down the insugents and the sunnis and will kill many more thousand of innocents while doing it.

    All's well that's ends well.
     
  12. Ray Luca

    Ray Luca BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Feb 2, 2005
    Pizza huts? I didn't know about that. No it is not nearly over if they are happy eating that crap pizza.
     
  13. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Thanks. That's the most well-thought out response so far.

    Shame it has to end with Saddam-lite (new face! less killing!) in charge.
     
  14. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    That makes two of us;)
     
  15. quentinc

    quentinc New Member

    Jan 3, 2005
    Annapolis, MD
    Oh my god...ITN never fails...

    Tell us, what is the "truth."
     
  16. GRUNT

    GRUNT Member

    Feb 27, 2001
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    DJ, what "mission" do you think Bush was refering to at the time he said it, and do you think it's the same "mission" his political opponents tirelessly prescribe?

    IMO, it was very obvious when he said it that "mission accomplished" refered to toppling the Hussein regime. You should know me better than to think I'm defending the invasion, but this is just partisan crap.
     
  17. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    I'm not ITN but I can help you out.

    The truth is that liberals are the enemy of normal people. Nattering nabobs of negativism. An effete corps of impudent snobs who call themselves intellectuals.

    When you see those truths to be self-evident, you'll be on the road to recovery.
     
  18. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    Sorry for any confusion - I'm not referring to the aircraft carrier stunt. Saddam toppled, yes, jolly good.

    I'm talking about our current mission. Whatever it is. Bring democracy? Fight terror? Establish a viable, democratic, friendly state in Iraq? All or none of the above?

    That's what I'm getting at. I apologize for any earlier confusion.

    I want to know what we're doing now (besides giving promotions to soldiers who couldn't even find one lousy little WMD) - and when we can say we are done.
     
  19. DJPoopypants

    DJPoopypants New Member

    saw this conservative(?) perspective in the WSJ.

    Is this our mission?

    http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/mhelprin/?id=110006198
     

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