What is the problem with Canada?

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by LouisianaViking07/09, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    It won't happen...Davies at this point is too big a name for CPL especially if he were to ever approach the end he would finish his career in MLS or at best in Europe
     
  2. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    How do you know he wouldn't retire in his hometown of Edmonton?

    Lots of world class player do that to.
    Also, after what the stunt the Vancouver Whitecaps pulled on Alphonso Davies which could have cost him his transfer to Bayern, he blacklisted them. I think he stopped following them on social media.

    He loves Canadian soccer above all else and if retiring would help CPL gain even more traction down the road, that's what he'll do.
     
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  3. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    at any point, it's 12-15 years away
     
  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #3254 Robert Borden, Jun 30, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2020
    So I watch the match between Pacos de Ferreira and Porto to have a good sense of where Eustaquio was. He looks as good as before his injury and I must say that the 22 years old is Canada's future at midfield. He can do it all like Atiba Hutchinson.

    If we can give him a midfield capable of playing at his tempo, Canada starting XI looks dangerous going forward as we already have Cavallini, Larin, Millar and Brym as CF.

    David can be a CF but i'd use him as an AM.

    in a 4-2-3-1 formation, this midfield is legit

    Davies (Bayern Munich, GER)-------Arfield (Rangers, SCO)---------David (Gent, BEL)
    ----------------------Hutchinson (Besiktas, TUR)----------Eustaquio, (Pacos de Ferreira, POR)

    Backup:
    Hoillett (Cardiff City, ENG)
    Borges (OH Leuven, BEL)
    Osorio (Toronto FC, CAN)
    Wotherspoon (St.Johnstone, SCO)
    Kaye (LAFC, USA)
    Fraser (Toronto FC, CAN)
    Piette (Montreal Impact, CAN)

    Stephen Eustaquio
    https://www.instagram.com/tv/CCDs_2sDowp/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet
     
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  5. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020

    No I would go 4-2-3-1 but a lineup that would and should be used

    GK- Borjan
    LB- Miller
    CB- Cornelius
    CB- Didic
    RB- Brault Guillard
    CDM- Eustaquio
    CDM- Kaye
    LAM- Davies
    CAM- Arfield
    RAM- David
    CF- Cavallini

    Bench

    GK- Crepeau, Pantemis
    LB- Adekugbe, Bassong
    CB- Waterman
    RB- Laryea
    CDM- Fraser, Piette
    AM- Osorio, Hoilett
    CF- Larin, Millar
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #3256 Robert Borden, Jun 30, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2020
    GK- Borjan - Yes
    LB- Miller - I would go with Sam Adekugbe, (Valarenga, NOR) Natural offensive minded LB playing 90 minutes every games and with chemistry with Davies on the left
    CB- Cornelius - Yes
    CB- Didic - Or Ferreira if he commits. I like Didic but I still feel that Dominick Zator is better and he can play RB as well.
    RB- Brault Guillard- Yes
    CDM- Eustaquio
    CDM- Kaye - Hutchinson is superior to Kaye in every possible way. But Kaye (chasing a goal or Piette to kill the game should be subs for him)
    LAM- Davies - Yes
    CAM- Arfield- Yes
    RAM- David - Yes
    CF- Cavallini - Yes

    Bench

    GK- Crepeau, Pantemis, Carducci
    LB- Adekugbe, Bassong,
    CB- Waterman, Zator, Miller
    RB- Laryea, Cordova
    CDM- Fraser, Piette
    AM- Osorio, Hoilett, Borges, Wotherspoon
    Borges is for real

    CF- Larin, Millar, Brym
     
  7. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    I didn't go for Atiba because he's too old...the man is 37 right now. By Gold Cup 21 he will be 38 hence why I dropped him from my 23 man squad. Kaye makes more sense especially playing alongside Eustaquio because not only are both players capable at the CDM spot but both are offensive minded hence the pairing.

    Ferreira will probably commit to Portugal anyway

    Zator at CB yeah I can see that

    But you're telling me you would take Carducci over Pantemis as your 3rd choice goalkeeper?

    And you would choose Borges and Wotherspoon over Hoilett and Osorio in your Final 23?

    And you would choose Brym over Larin and Millar for Final 23?

    Because you have to have a 23 man squad
     
  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Atiba is a freak, still playing 90 minutes at very high level, but I wouldn't give him 90 for Canada. He obviously takes good care of himself and I can see him wanting to help for one last WCQ


    Doubtful he's in Portugal's plans after his back to back knee injury. They most likely already moved on. If he's back to full health, Canada will call him.

    Pantemis has proved nothing while Carducci was the best keeper in CPL. Pantemis has been loaned to Winnipeg so this year will be our chance to see who's better between the 2 of them

    I was just adding names to show that Herdman has some choices. Borges, Wotherspoon and Brym would be on the bench with Millar
     
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  9. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    seriously Atiba is like 37, amazing engine on him
     
  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    btw this thread is over 4 years old now, amazing
     
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  11. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Yeah but still by next year's Gold Cup he will be 38 years old. Do you think Herdman will take a 38 year old in his squad to the Gold Cup?
     
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  12. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    who knows man
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Shrug. Its the balance all nations make....................balancing the NOW and an eye on the future. Is Canada better right now in 2020 with Atiba? Yes. By Gold Cup 2021? Who knows? What I do know is that the purpose of entering a tournament like the Gold Cup is to win it.
     
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  14. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Yeah I know that but you tell me would Canada even have what it takes to win especially with a star like Atiba there
     
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  15. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  16. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    After EPL and Bundesliga clubs, the French are entering the race to sign 20 years old Jonathan David. After reports that Lyon are interested, Lille is making a serious move for him
     
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  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    god damn, GENT is about to get paid
     
  18. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    If he goes to Lille...they would have both Brym and David
     
  19. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Brym just got loaned to Mouscron in Belgium
     
  20. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    They have Tim Weah of the USMNT :)
    We need our CONCACAF players to flock together like Dest and Davies are about to.

    With David, it just depends what other clubs are interested. From all the rumors I've seen there are clubs with bigger bank accounts than Lille interested. They'll lose a bidding war.

    Worth mentioning that neither Lille or Lyon qualified for next year's Champions League.................as far as I know.
     
  21. Ofori

    Ofori Red Card

    Inter Milan
    Ghana
    May 9, 2020
    Arsenal are in the running too for David
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    He's not normal :eek:
     
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  23. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Looks like Cyle Larin's future is in Belgium but with a different club. He drastically improved his game in Belgium by not only being a goal scorer but became an efficient playmaker. He has 7 goals and 10 assists in 29 games.
     
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  24. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Shame that Besiktas won't give him a fair shot
     
  25. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    #3275 Clint Eastwood, Jul 2, 2020
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2020
    Turkish clubs are schizo when it comes to how they treat players.

    Larin is better off in Belgium.
    Atwerp qualified for the Europa League. They were better this year than much bigger clubs like Anderlecht and Standard. They were much, much better than Zulte Waregem...............so this is a step up for him.

    I'm not yet convinced about Larin in a "bigger league" than Belgium, although my mind can be changed.

    Of course Americans watching Belgium are most interested in what's going on with Ethan Horvath at Brugge. He was doing well there until they brought in Simon Mignolet as the #1. Ethan is likely to leave. He's won league titles at Molde in Norway and with Brugge in Belgium (technically two times, but we won't count this season as he rode the pine).
     
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