What is the problem with Canada?

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  1. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    #2976 Ghost, Feb 28, 2020
    Last edited: Feb 28, 2020
    Davies and David are going to be playing in the junior varsity qualifying circuit while El Salvador plays in the Hex.

    Wonderful idea.

    ES has played well and earned it. But two big rising stars don't have a straightforward way to play their way in.
     
  2. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Keepers are:
    Milan Borjan, Red Star Belgrade.
    Maxime Crepeau, Vancouver starter.

    The third could be:
    Jayson Leutwiler, Blackburn
    Sebastian Breza, Bologna (young, recent purchase)
    Dayne St. Clair (recent MinnU draft pick, in San Antonio this year)
     
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  3. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    It is interesting.
    My eyes say Canada is the better team right now.

    But there's still something deep inside that says if they were to play a home/away playoff against each other El Salvador would find a way to advance. Their crazy home fanaticos would be a huge factor.
     
  4. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Last time they faced each other competitively was in the last WCQ. 1 tie and a 3-1 win for Canada.

    There was a friendly in 2017 which Canada lost 1-0.

    That was pre-Jonathan David, Alphonso Davies, Luca Cavallini just to name those. In 2020, don't see the same results happening
     
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  5. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    That is true.
    Hence, I implied that according to the eye test I think Canada would win.

    But the feeling still lingers when it comes to a big game or do-or-die series of games they would still find a way to slip on the banana peel.
     
  6. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    It's a flip coin on the coach. The players are much more different and are used to those kind of situations which past national teams weren't.

    The loss against Haiti was a defensive collapse due to putting the wrong guys against them. The loss against the US was the same reason, wrong guys at defense which change the dynamics from the 1st game.

    What they both have in common is Davies at LB and teams pressing harder on Canada. When both Davies and David are upfront, teams are more cautious and press way less fearing the speedy counterattack.

    So the huge debate here is, where does Davies play? LB or winger?

    Also, should we use David as a striker or attacking midfield where he's also excellent?
     
  7. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    It's not really about El Salvador. It's about the fact that the two guys who might be the biggest stars in CONCACAF a year from now are, as it stands, going to be playing in, like, the Turks and Caicos, to try a long-shot qualification based on things that happened years ago.
     
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  8. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    #2983 Robert Borden, Mar 1, 2020
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2020
    - The Sunday Express claim that Gent striker Jonathan David has made his way onto Chelsea's transfer wish list this summer. That said, Frank Lampard will have his work cut out to lure a player valued at £20m from Belgium to Stamford Bridge, with Liverpool, Manchester United and Spurs also interested in snapping him up
    There's rumbling of Bayern Munich being interested
     
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  9. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    be wise 2 avoid big clubs
     
  10. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Yeah, every rumor seems to be a place he'd likely be a backup for at least a couple of years. I get that you get paid, but I'm surprised some of the Canadian fans are so excited.
     
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  11. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    I don't understand why fans shouldn't be excited. Just like Davies, he would have to prove he deserves to starts.
     
  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Sorry -- you should absolutely be excited. But those particular teams all seem to have very established strikers that will be very hard to unseat.

    If I were a Canadian fan, I'd want him to go somewhere he has a better shot at playing.
     
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  13. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    What's the Canadian Olympic qualifying team going to look like?
    Are any of the Euro based players going to play?
     
  14. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Hard to say as clubs aren't obligated to release players for this tournament, so we can forget David and Davies for the qualifiers. We'll have to see the final roster.

    In bold are players based in Europe. Players to watch:
    • Sebastian Breza : Now on loan to Serie A Bologna
    • Zorhan Bassong : Did very well as a FB when he played in a friendly for Canada.
    • Tristan Borges: 2019 CPL MVP who was sold to the Belgium side OHL.
    • Chares-Andres Lille: Scored for Canada in a friendly and high profile talent at Lille.
    • Liam Millar: Started his 1st game with Liverpool this year after being recalled from Scottish Premiership
    MLS talent to watch (if released by their clubs)
    • Strong points : midfield depth, centre-back & attack depth

    CPL talent to watch (most likely will be released by their clubs)

    • Strong points : Fullback depth and attack depth

    GK- Sebastian Breza | ITA / SSD Potenza Calcio
    GK- Thomas Hasal | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    GK- Matthew Nogueira | POR / CS Maritimo
    GK- James Pantemis | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    GK- Dayne St. Clair | USA / Minnesota United FC
    CB- Robert Boskovic | CAN / Toronto FC II
    CB- Derek Cornelius | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    CB- Julian Dunn | CAN / Toronto FC
    CB- Yohan Le Bourhis | CAN / Winnipeg Valour FC
    CB- Thomas Meilleur-Giguère | CAN / Pacific FC
    CB- Kamal Miller | USA / Orlando City SC
    CB- Callum Montgomery | USA / FC Dallas
    CB- Antonio Rocco Romeo | CAN / Toronto FC
    CB- Frank Sturing | NED / NEC Nijmegen
    CB- Karifa Yao | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    FB- Diyaeddine Abzi | CAN / York9 FC
    FB- Zorhan Bassong | BEL / Cercle Brugge KSV
    FB- Gabriel Boakye | GER / FC Köln II

    FB- Zachary Brault-Guillard | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    FB- Kadin Chung | CAN / Pacific FC
    FB- Marcus Godinho | GER / FSV Zwickau
    FB- Daniel Kinumbe | CAN / Halifax Wanderers FC
    FB- Émile Legault | Unattached
    FB- Terique Mohammed | CAN / Toronto FC II
    M- Clément Bayiha | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    M- Tristan Borges | BEL / Oud-Heverlee Leuven
    M- Mathieu Choinière | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    M- Aidan Daniels | USA / Colorado Switchbacks FC
    M- Liam Fraser | CAN / Toronto FC
    M- Patrick Metcalfe | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- David Norman | USA / Inter Miami CF
    M- Noble Okello | CAN / Toronto FC

    M- Harrison Paton | SCO / Ross County FC
    M- Ryan Raposo | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    M- Shamit Shome | CAN / Impact de Montréal
    M- Noah Verhoeven | CAN / Pacific FC
    F- Theo Bair | CAN / Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    F- Charles-Andreas Brym | FRA / Lille OSC B
    F- Tajon Buchanan | USA / New England Revolution
    F- Terran Campbell | CAN / Pacific FC
    F- Malik Johnson | USA / Tampa Bay Rowdies
    F- Aramis Kouzine | Unattached
    F- Liam Millar | ENG / Liverpool FC
    F- Jayden Nelson | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Easton Ongaro | CAN / FC Edmonton
    F- Jordan Perruzza | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Jacob Shaffelburg | CAN / Toronto FC
    F- Ballou Jean-Yves Tabla | CAN / Impact de Montréal

    F- Kris Twardek | IRL / Bohemian FC
    F- Dario Zanatta | SCO / Partick Thistle FC
     
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  15. Duncan Edwards i miss u

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Come to United, please! We have opening position to fill.
     
  16. Duncan Edwards i miss u

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Because he will become the first Canadian International playing for Man United. That is the history made.
     
  17. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    If he's starting, I'm all for it!
     
  18. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
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  19. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Use him in a diamond behind two strikers.
     
  20. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  21. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    There might be hope after all for Doneil Henry who's been name to team of the week of the AFC Champions League
     
  22. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Bayern Munich joins other giants to acquire Jonathan David from Gent. What's interesting is that Bayern would be his preference so he could play with Alphonso Davies.
     
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  23. Sam Miami

    Sam Miami Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 11, 2019
    David to Bayern would be good news
     
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  24. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    too risky
     
  25. Robert Borden

    Robert Borden Member+

    Chelsea
    Canada
    Apr 19, 2017
    Toronto, Ontario
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada

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