Wesley Clark releases military file

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  1. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Clark:

    Top of class at West Point
    Rhodes Scholar
    Volunteered for multiple tours of duty in Vietnam
    Winner of Silver Star
    Winner of Purple Heart
    Led air war in Kosovo
    Writes entire books
    Supreme Allied Commander
    Married for 35 years without a single character blemish


    Bush:

    C average in college
    Rejected by UT Law School
    Avoided Vietnam through National Guard
    Went AWOL in National Guard
    Failed oil man
    Recovering alcoholic
    Troubled by the English language
    Figurehead owner of Rangers
     
  2. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    But Gringo...he's a liberal and do I need to mention his friendship with the 'C' word.

    It's in the open now so I guess McCracken and Karl won't have anything else to add.
     
  3. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    I can't wait to vote for a genius war hero over a questionably intelligent duty-shirking stooge who was born with a silver foot in his mouth.
     
  4. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    You and the 49 million people who voted for Gore.
     
  5. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    If a wooden boob like Gore can get more votes than Bush, how do you think a dashing All-American einstein war hero is going to do?
     
  6. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    NO *#*#*#*#...but I'm just waiting for what the Kool-aid drinking spin jockeys try to dig up about the man. You can assaut women and get elected governor so long as you have an [R] next to your name on the ballot. What's a few DUI's and missing years during Vietnam.
     
  7. Scotty

    Scotty Member+

    Dec 15, 1999
    Campania
    Those are some credentials. I mean, his own baseball team? Wow!
     
  8. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    you forgot to mention that he traded sammy sosa.
     
  9. bert patenaude

    Apr 16, 2001
    White Plains, NY
    You forgot the most important thing: first son of the 41st President of the United States.
     
  10. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
    USA
    Club:
    SS Lazio Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    You forgot:

    Nearly started WWIII
    Fired by Bill Clinton

    Clark is down to 5% in NH's latest poll (with 95% name recognition). He has no organization to speak of in Iowa. The guy won't even survive the Democratic primaries. Too many liberals "abhor" the military to vote for him. He could be a decent general election candidate, but doesn't look like he's going to make it that far.
     
  11. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I think the main reason why Dems. have yet to embrace him despite his impressive credentials is the fact that he was attending Republican fundraisers up to 2001 & praising Republicans including Bush II:

    (from CBSnews.com)

    Lieberman's criticism underscores a potential vulnerability for Clark, who had not publicly embraced the Democratic Party until days before entering the race. Democratic caucuses and primaries are dominated by liberals and other voters angry with President Bush. It is unclear how they will react to Clark praising former President Reagan, the first President Bush and the current Bush administration in the 2001 speech.

    Clark also seemed to raise doubts about whether the Clinton administration had a foreign policy vision in the address.

    "I think they'll nab him on all that stuff, including being a Republican. The honeymoon will soon be over for Clark," said Democratic National Committee member Anita Freedman, a New Hampshire activist who supports Rep. Dick Gephardt's campaign.
     
  12. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CP, that ain't it. We don't know what he stands for.
     
  13. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    George Bush gets a bum rap!

    Sammy Sosa didn't discover steroids and corking until he joined the Cubs.
     
  14. DoyleG

    DoyleG Moderator
    Staff Member

    FC Edmonton
    Canada
    Jan 11, 2002
    Victoria, BC
    Club:
    FC Edmonton
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Re: Re: Wesley Clark releases military file

    Forgot to mention that Clark admitted to the fact that all the armour he planes hit in Kosovo were wood and plastic targets.

    A man like him should've known to put troops in to ID targets correctly.
     
  15. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    Leave Sammy alone. Dodgers suck.
     
  16. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    If I were a Dodger fan, then your invocation of the bleedin' obvious would have been pertinent. I don't follow baseball anymore, but you'll never guess who I used to cheer for. Hint - I realized that if they ever won anything, their entire reason for existing would wither away, and they'd move the team to Sacramento.
     
  17. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    No idea. The Padres? Oakland?
     
  18. csc7

    csc7 New Member

    Jul 3, 2002
    DC
    Re: Re: Re: Wesley Clark releases military file

    Clark argued constantly for the need of ground troops (or at a minimum, the threat). It was a political decision made by NATO countries' leadership.

    Besides, hitting fake armor is better than invading for fake WMDs
     
  19. house18

    house18 Member

    Jun 23, 2003
    St. Louis, MO
    And here we have whats known as spin. Bush talks like the average man so that makes him not good enough. He owns a baseball team and I guess you're saying he didn't manage the team so he is a figure head. Oh and I guarantee if you dig deep enough everyone has a "character blemish." The whole college grade thing, well some of the dumbest people I have ever met are straight "A" students and I am sure you know that to. You rip people like O'Reilly for spinning but you just did it. That's called being a hypocrite!
     
  20. GringoTex

    GringoTex Member

    Aug 22, 2001
    1301 miles de Texas
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Bolivia
    Re: Re: Wesley Clark releases military file

    Bush never owned a baseball team. The Rangers were owned anonymously. Bush had a 0.2% investment in the team.
     
  21. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca
    Priceless conventional wisdom of the sort that gave us president Bob Dole in '96.

    But I doubt that Clark will even stay on the radar screen up to the first primary, he's getting chewed up already. Now that he has GringoTex' endorsement.......look what that did for UT
     
  22. Richth76

    Richth76 New Member

    Jul 22, 1999
    Washington, D.C.
    Can you please provide examples of General Clark "getting chewed up"?

    Thanks.
     
  23. bojendyk

    bojendyk New Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    South Loop, Chicago
    Re: Re: Wesley Clark releases military file

    You're right to a point--I've met plenty of dumb people who get excellent grades, and there are plenty of dumb people who have managed to get into great schools, and not always through legacy-based means. But we're going beyond getting just As here. How many dumb people graduate at the top of their class at West Point? How many become Rhodes Scholars? There is no spin there. Bush performed poorly, Clark didn't.
     
  24. mannyfreshstunna

    mannyfreshstunna New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Naperville, no less
    An amazing post.
     
  25. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Only if you're very easily amazed.
     

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