WCQ Peru vs. Chile "El Clasico del Pacifico" Match Centre

Discussion in 'CONMEBOL' started by Visca..., Nov 15, 2004.

  1. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    One of South America's most heated rivalry begins another chapter. This Wednesday, November 17th, at 8:00 pm. ET at the National Stadium in Lima, Peru will face Chile in what is known as "El Clasico del Pacifico". A lot of history between both countries makes this game a classic. Every time they meet, even in friendlies, the game goes to another level.

    Peru comes into the game sitting at the bottom of the table with Bolivia and Colombia with 10 points, but with only a three point difference from the 4th place team. Peru needs to win all of its home games and a couple of games away in order to contend for a spot that would send them to Germany '06 or the play-off against the Oceania winner. Peru have only won one game, drawn two, and lost two at home. Out of a possible 15 points at home, Peru has only rescued 5. They've scored 6 goals and allowed 7 at home. Chile comes into the game sitting in 5th place with 13 points. Chile has rescued 7 points outside of Santiago. They have scored 6 goals and allowed 6 away from home. Chile will be without strikers Salas and Navia due to injuries. Peru will be without defenders Galliquio and Rebosio due to injuries. Peru has players with minor injuries in Solano, Soto, Jayo, and Pizarro, but they are likely to start. Chile won the first leg in Santiago 2-1.

    From wars, to ships, to land, this game means a lot to both. Peru can't lose against Chile and Chile can't lose against Peru. Peru wins 2-1 :D Let's get it on!
     
  2. BorrachoNJ

    BorrachoNJ New Member

    Apr 8, 2001
    NEW BRUNSWICK, NJ
    while i really love the idea of the pisco war and the pacific battle and all of that, i hope the boys don't take it that way...of course, chorri is, being that he's one of the veterans that still thinks like that...

    but i'd prefer to think that our team is going our for the 3 pts y punto to make it to the Mundial and not worry about this clasico...b/c all in all, even if it wasn't chile...this game is about winning, nothing else.

    i hope the idea of playing chile doesn't drive our boys up the wall and also hope the anxieties doesn't fucq our shyte up...

    dale peru, good luck to chile...may the better team win.
     
  3. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    the team is basically set out for this must win match

    we have 4 remaining games at home and we must win them all

    the team will surely be

    ---------------------Bombero Ibanes
    -----------Santiago Acasiete----Alberto Rodriguez
    Camello Soto-------------------------------Loquito Vargas
    ----------------Pulpo Jayo------Tigre Ciurlizza
    --------Nobby Solano-----------------Chorri Pizarro
    -----------Bombardero Pizarro---Foquita Farfan

    the bench will most likely be
    butron
    villalta
    salas
    zegarra
    garcia
    mendoza
    guerrero
     
  4. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    FIFA has sent officials to Lima that are experienced in fierce rivalries. FIFA considers this a "high-risk match". If things get out of hand, the game could be suspended or Peru could lose the points. Let's hope the people at the stadium behave.
     
  5. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Los chilenos nos tienen miedo

    El ataque peruano le baja las defensas a Chile

    El fin de semana el joven Paolo Guerrero, quien justamente entró en reemplazo de su compatriota Claudio Pizarro, marcó dos de los tres goles con que su equipo, el Bayern Munich, derrotó al Bochum por 3-1. Guerrero ni siquiera sería titular contra Chile, pero su nivel sirve para dimensionar el momento por el que pasan los atacantes incaicos. El mismo dato sirve para hacer el contraste con Chile, que en las eliminatorias no marca un gol de juego hace cuatro partidos (el último fue de penal a Brasil) y que para colmo perdió por lesión a Navia y Salas.

    En Chile ven con inquietud el poder ofensivo de sus rivales e incluso reconocen que Perú tiene ventajas en esa zona. "Lo peor sería no reconocer el buen momento por el que pasan. Eso es lo primero para jugar aún más aplicados. Pero creo que, al menos en la zaga, andamos muy bien para contrarrestarlos", reconoce Rafael Olarra. El cruzado agrega que "a Pizarro y Farfán los he enfrentado, pero a Guerrero no. En general, son tipos fuertes y habilidosos".

    http://www.tercera.cl/medio/articulo/0,0,3308_5804_99103719,00.html

    JAJAJAJAJA

    y mientras mendoza se ha reencontrado con su verdadero nivel y es goleador absoluto en la liga de ucrania y jefferson farfan sigue como titular indiscutible en el equipo puntero de holanda los chilenos celebran que "pinigol" marco por la primera vez en la liga de portugal cuando hizo el ultimo gol en un partido que termino 6-1... :p

    hasta los delanteros peruanos de recambio (mendoza y guerrero) serian titulares en el equipo chileno ;)

    bueno segun la prensa claudio pizarro ha reconocido que no esta al cien por cien ya que esta muy agotado

    no seria logico dejar entrar guerrero en lugar de el en el comienzo del segundo tiempo?
     
  6. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    it seems that among all the ctiticism being aimed at autori they have missed the fact that hes renovating the squad

    so far hes blooded in the following players

    erick delgado - 22
    miguel villalata - 23
    walter vilchez - 22
    alberto rodriguez 20
    juan vargas - 21
    juan carlos la rosa - 24
    luis hernandez - 23
    juan cominges - 21
    julio garcia - 23
    jefferson farfan - 20
    paolo guerrero - 20
    carlos orejuela - 24
    junior ross - 18

    all of them have been called up surevthey havnt all played but at least they have been considered

    he has started the renovation and it shows when rodriguez vargas and farfan are in the starting team against chile and villalta garcia and guererro will be on the bench
     
  7. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    The stadium is practically full with less than 1,000 tickets to be sold in occidente. It's gonna be a nice scenery. Let's hope the win rounds up a great night.
     
  8. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    with youngsters paolo guerrero and jefferson farfan coming up the ranks i have a hard time to imagine that carlos orejuela will ever be considered to put on a national team jersey again...

    it would only be in case of extreme emergency

    hopefully the success of paolo and jefferson in europe will inspire the other talented players from their generation like juan cominges, juan vargas, junior viza and so on...
     
  9. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    yeah carlitos time on the national team seems limited but...he would be usefull in case of injuries or suspensions
     
  10. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Peru is coming into the game with the complete squad. Pizarro is not at a full 100% and Garcia has admitted some fatigue, but aside from that everything looks good. On the other hand, Chile is without Salas, Navia, Milosevic, and just recently Martel and Acuña.
     
  11. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    i have high hopes of players like alberto rodriguez and walter vilchez

    we need some good defenders coming up

    it's sad that a team that have forwards like andres mendoza and paolo guerrero on the bench has to play with defenders who play in spain's second division and even have to fight for a place in the starting line up in their clubs

    if only we would have defenders of the same quality as our attackers... :(
     
  12. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    yeah i know for all our attacking "power" we lack a solid defence wichi is why im glad rodriguez villalta and vilchez are in the mix they have the quality to get better
     
  13. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    Chile opta por esquema defensivo ante Peru

    De no mediar alguna lesión de última hora, el seleccionador se inclinará por un esquema conservador para enfrentar mañana a Perú. El sistema que baraja el técnico es con una línea de cuatro hombres en el fondo, cinco mediocampistas y un solo jugador en ofensiva.
    http://www.tercera.cl/medio/articulo/0,0,3308_5804_99103728,00.html

    La idea original de Juvenal Olmos era repetir el mismo esquema que usó ante Argentina. El 3-4-1-2 de esa vez parecía ser la receta que el técnico había encontrado para sacarles rendimiento a los jugadores. Las lesiones y la peligrosidad que revisten los delanteros peruanos cambió, sin embargo, los matices del plan. Finalmente, Olmos optó por aplicar la misma fórmula que ha utilizado varias veces en el extranjero, con cuatro hombres en el fondo, cinco en el mediocampo y un solo delantero.

    "Lo más seguro es que juguemos con sólo un atacante. Mi modelo es el partido ante Brasil por la Copa América", aseguró el técnico.

    chilenos cobardes... ;)
     
  14. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Head-to-Head stats since '73:

    28-APR-04 ANTOFAGASTA (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 1:1 (0:0) Friendly 2004

    09-SEP-03 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 2:1 (1:0) FIFA WC 2006 Prel. Comp. South American Zone

    02-APR-03 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 3:0 (1:0) Friendly 2003

    30-MARS-03 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 2:0 (1:0) Friendly 2003

    27-MARS-01 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 3:1 (0:0) FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    26-APR-00 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 1:1 (1:1) FIFA WC 2002 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    12-OCT-97 LIMA (Peru) Chile vs. Peru 4:0 (1:0) FIFA WC 1998 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    12-JAN-97 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 2:1 (2:0) FIFA WC 1998 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    14-FEB-96 COQUIMBO (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 4:0 (2:0) Friendly 1996

    19-APR-95 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 6:0 (4:0) Friendly 1995

    25-MAY-94 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 2:1 (2:1) Friendly 1994

    24-JUN-93 CUENCA (Ecuador) Chile vs. Peru 0:1 (0:1) Copa America 1993

    08-JUL-91 CONCEPCION (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 4:2 (1:0) Copa America 1991

    25-JUL-89 ARICA (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 2:1 (1:0) Friendly 1989

    01-FEB-89 ARMENIA (Colombia) Peru vs. Chile 0:0 Armenia Cup Colombia 1989

    23-NOV-88 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 1:1 (0:1) Friendly 1988

    25-OCT-88 ARICA (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 2:0 (0:0) Friendly 1988

    24-JUN-87 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 1:0 (0:0) Friendly 1987

    21-JUN-87 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 2:0 (1:0) Friendly 1987

    19-JUN-87 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 1:3 (0:0) Friendly 1987

    03-NOV-85 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 0:1 (0:0) FIFA WC 1986 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    27-OCT-85 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 4:2 (3:1) FIFA WC 1986 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    09-MARS-85 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 1:1 (1:0) Friendly 1985

    24-FEB-85 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 1:2 (0:1) Friendly 1985

    26-MARS-77 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 2:0 (0:0) FIFA WC 1978 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    06-MARS-77 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 1:1 (1:0) FIFA WC 1978 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    05-AUG-73 MONTEVIDEO (Uruguay) Chile vs. Peru 2:1 (1:1) FIFA WC 1974 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    13-MAY-73 SANTIAGO DE CHILE (Chile) Chile vs. Peru 2:0 (0:0) FIFA WC 1974 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    29-APR-73 LIMA (Peru) Peru vs. Chile 2:0 (1:0) FIFA WC 1974 Prel. Comp. CONMEBOL

    Peru...............Chile
    29......Played....29
    9........Won.......14
    6.......Drawn......6
    14.......Lost........9
    37......Goals.......43
     
  15. CHILENOOO

    CHILENOOO New Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    NJ
    Re: Chile opta por esquema defensivo ante Peru

    Para que comenzar a ofender...Pero bueno asi es el futbol, NO?

    Para mi gusto Chile sale como puede, sin Salas ni Navia se reducen mucho las posibilidades de ataque...ademas es engañoso el equipo...si bien no estan Salas ni Navia, Chile saldra atacando con el trio Valenzuela-Gonzalez-Pizarro...
    va a ser un lindo partido.
     
  16. vipnerd

    vipnerd Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2003
    La Mitad + Román

    It's been almost a decade! :eek:


    What's wrong with those Peruvians! :D


    .
     
  17. vico

    vico Member

    Aug 6, 2001
    Stockholm, Sweden
    calmate chilenooo no es prohibido calentar el ambiente antes de un clasico no? :)

    la verdad es que chile puede ganar. la defensa peruana me preocupa muchisimo.

    segun los diarios chilenos chamagol estara en la banca ya que chile va jugar con un 4-4-1-1 con pinilla como unico delantero y pizarro como enganche

    este partido esta para cualquiera. lo unico cierto es que peru tiene la mejor delantera y chile la mejor defensa. por eso es logico que chile se tira pa atras mientras peru va al ataque
     
  18. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    the key will be the fullbacks

    peru has been attacked trought the sides and our laterales have been exposed

    if soto and vargas can keep their sides protected then we have a very good chance of winning
     
  19. Visca...

    Visca... Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    ATL
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Probable line-ups:

    Peru:

    Oscar Ibáñez
    Jorge Soto, Alberto Rodríguez, Santiago Acasiete, Juan Vargas
    Juan Jayo, Marko Ciurlizza, Nolberto Solano, Roberto Palacios
    Jefferson Farfán y Claudio Pizarro

    Chile:

    Nelson Tapia
    Cristián Álvarez, Luis Fuentes, Pablo Contreras, Rafael Olarra
    Rodrigo Valenzuela, Claudio Maldonado, Rodrigo Meléndez, Mark González
    David Pizarro
    Mauricio Pinilla
     
  20. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    peru esta calentando
     
  21. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    estan tocando el himno peruano:cool:
     
  22. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    comenzo el partido
     
  23. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    rodriguez seems nervous

    peru defence sounds weak
     
  24. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    offside goal by palacios
     
  25. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    first corner for peru
     

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