50's 4-4-2 60's 4-4-2 goal : yashin goal : banks rightback : bergmark rightback : burgnich letback : nilton santos leftback : fachetti centreback : santamaria centreback : moore centreback : billy wright centreback : vasovic left half : ernst ocwirk left half : coluna rigth half : bozsik right half : charlton leftwing : gento leftwing : best rightwing : garincha rightwing : johnstone striker : puskas forward : pele forward : di stefano striker : eusebio just curious, what you think.. its not like ooh you betetr could have put player a there instead of player b. i tried to make it quite even teams. i slightly favor the 50's team
50's has more balance, but the offensive prowess of the 60's is mouthwatering. Post your 80's and 90's
I make it 6-5 to the 60's team! That's both choosing from the listed players and suggesting a scoreline!
On the one on one: Yashin > Banks Bergmark = Burgnich Nílton Santos = Facchetti Santamaría < Moore Wright = Vasovic Ocwirk > Coluna Bozsik < Charlton Gento < Best Garrincha > Johnstone Puskás < Pelé Di Stéfano > Eusébio Therefore I think there are some parity talent, but I think that lineups are unbalanced. For the 60's team I think there is a weird 4-men defensive line. Burgnich wasn't a RB in a typical 4-4-2 system, but a CWP in the Zona Mista system (more in the mold of a CB). Even using that system they would need a defensive SW, but Vasovic was more offensive and Moore isn't exactly the most suitable player for the LCB in that type of lineup. Finally, the midfield lacks of recovery and mark with only Coluna and Charlton.
I'd take: 50's All-Stars GK Yashin - CB Wright ---- CB Santamaría RB Djalma Santos --------------------------------- LB Nílton Santos - CM Bozsik ----- DM Edwards RW Garrincha ---- FW Di Stéfano ----- FW Puskás ----- LW Gento ---- Substitutes: GK Carrizo, CB Zebec, RB Stankovic, DM Rossi, CM Ocwirk, CM Didi, AM, Kopa, WF Finney, FW Kubala, ST Kocsis, ST Fontaine.
Nice one, Howecver I would take Didi over Bozik or D Edwards at any time ... and you missed Zizinho in CAM/FW (who was at least same as Kopa and > Kubala)
60's All-Stars GK Banks CB Popluhár ---- CB Moore RB Carlos Alberto ------------------------------------ LB Facchetti --- DM Voronin --- AM Charlton -------- CM Luis Suárez --------- FW Eusébio ----------- FW Pelé ------------ LW Best Substitutes: GK Mazurkiewicz, SW Shesternyov, LB Schnellinger, DM Mackay, CM Masopust, CM Gérson, AM Rivera, LW Dzajic, FW Sívori, ST Riva, ST Seeler.
Surely by talent, but the issue of putting together Didi and Di Stéfano remembers the failed attempt in Real Madrid in the 1959/60 season. Besides the duel of egos, probably they overlap in the same function due the deep deployment of Di Stéfano as playmaker while Bozsik offers a better complement as a box-to-box conductor. But the glory days of Zizinho were in the 40's, essentially between 1941 and 1945 and a very prolific 1947. Perhaps you're mentioning him because the 1950 World Cup, but then he began lowering his level near the 30's and his global prominence was then diluted out of Flamengo, in Bangu. He belongs to the 40's era as Varela, Danilo Alvim, Mazzola, Moreno, Matthews (at his peak), Pedernera, Bican... the Second World War era.
80's. i have choocen a different formation. i chooce a 4-2-2-2 formation with upcomming backs. goalie : dassaev (or arconada whom i rate very highly personally) leftback : junior rightback : kaltz centreback : scirea centreback : gentile left dm : bryan robson right dm : rijkaard left offensive midfield : maradona right offensive midfield : platini (gets the choice over zico. but its hard leavign zico out) striker : van basten striker : gullit 90's. is a 3-4-3 formation goalie : schmeichel leftback : maldini rightback : thuram centreback : hierro DM : keane leftmidfield : davids right midfield : seedorf offensive midfield : baggio leftwing : stoichkov righwing : figo striker : romario this is easy. as talented as the 90's team is. they will get beaten at least 7 outta 10 times by the 80's team
finally my 70's team. my personal favorites and probably the strongest of all the mentioned teams.. no room for beckenbauer here..he doesn't fit in.. total football style of play goal keeper : jan van beveren (in the 70's the best goalie in the world) leftback : ruud krol rightback : danny mcgrain left centreback : passarella right centreback : carlos alberto left midfield : rivelino central midfield : van hanegem right midfield : neeskens free role : cruyff striker : muller second striker : dalglish this is such a formidable team. a very strogn defensive line up. not jsut the defenders but both van hanegem and neeskens coudl be tough as nails and defend very well. krol and carlos alberto will go by the flanks to attack many times when in possession. also passarella is reknwned for doign so. midfield has good creativity with both van hanegem and rivelino attack hs a pure killer and finisher in gerd muller an dalglish is very underrated player in my mind. hard worker, good finisher he will kepp the enemy defense busy. and ofcourse there is cruyff he will come form the left many tiems but cruyff is cruyff he will wander around the field everywhere. midfield, defense, attack.. all these players also have game intelligence vry much they could read the game perfectly
or an all time uk and ireland team..... also filled with very versatile players. talented enough and strong enough to beat an all time brazilain or argentinian team. a very attacking 3-3-4 line up.....but the midfielders (and attackers) have enough defensive qualities and stamina to help out in defense goal : banks leftback : johnny carey (very allround player) centreback : moore rightback : mcgrain left midfield : duncan edwards right midfield : graeme souness CM : charlton leftwing : best (regurarly changing position with the rightwinger) rightwing : tom finney (regurarly changing position wiht the leftwinger) second striker : dalglish forward : john charles
beckenbauer was a atg player but gets overrated very much. for me a player like krol or scirea was jsut as good as beckenbauer
You're lining-up Carlos Alberto as centreback (not an ATG there, imho) And later, you said that he will go by the right flank???
yes why not ? got a 4 man defense line up. alberto is the right central defender from tiem to tiem he can go by the rightflank why not ? i said total football style of playing. so i chooce versatiel players able to perform many tasks
I think Dasaev and Shilton were the best goalkeepers of the 80's. Bergomi could make the team instead of Gentile and would be a hard battle between Brehme and Júnior for the LWB role. Perhaps Falcao should make the team instead of Robson and would be better to go with Zico as TQ instead of Gullit and behind van Basten, that would be amazing. There are many great midfielders from that decade as Souness, Toninho Cerezo, Tigana, Tardelli, Breitner, Schuster, Sócrates and Francescoli. Conti and Littbarski could provide the wide game, Boniek, Dalglish, Butragueño and Rummenigge could play behind the main striker and Hugo Sánchez and Lineker should be the substitutes of van Basten. What a great decade about players!, there were also Zenga, Schumacher, Hansen, Förster, Amoros, Cabrini, Briegel, Brady, Giresse, Susic, Hoddle, "Mágico" González, Belanov, Rush , Careca, Völler and Elkjaer Larsen.
Baresi and Kohler/Desailly could make a great partnership in a 4-men defensive line. Redondo as holding-midfielder and Zidane (at his peak at 90's) should make the team in my opinion. Rivaldo could also make the team instead of Stoichkov and definitely Ronaldo is a must. O Fenómeno born and played at his peak at 90's during his tenure in Barcelona and Inter Milan.
80s: Dasaev Amoros-Baresi-Passarella-Junior Rikjaard-Falcao-Platini-Zico Maradona-Van Basten 90s: Schmeichel Cafu-Koeman-Hierro-Maldini Redondo-Effenberg-Laudrup Ronaldo-Romario-Baggio 00s: Casillas Thuram-Puyol-Ayala-Roberto Carlos Davids-Essien-Zidane-Rivaldo Ronaldinho-Eto'o 10s I'll do after the WC, it should include Messi, C Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Pirlo and Ramos.
I'm personally don't rate so high Carlos Alberto as an CB. But, as a Right Back, of course he's better than McGrain, but i guess the prime years of the brazilian were in the 60s.
How gets Magico Gonzalez included in this list? 30 years later the successors will mention Abdel Taarabt among the great 10s players?
Totally agree, regarding this friend of Kissinger, Dassler, Strauss, Havelange. He and Pelé are the only two players to have received the FIFA order of merit That is stretching it a little bit. Though as pure defenders (defence 'only') they were equal/better and could do better. Redondo also gets 'overrated' a lot on the interwebs.
agreed but if making an all tiem team there is plenty of building up and attackign qualities in other players. so simply no room for beckenbauer like you said.. defensvely krol and scirea and soem others where way better. and mayeb not as good offensively as der kaiser but both krol and cirea where not exactly weak players in terms of offense and building up..