Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This seems like the best place to put this. ESPN ranked the top 50 Premier League transfers. As expected, lots of Arsenal representation on this list. Of note, there aren't any Arsenal signings over the last 15+ years that made this list.

    Ah, for the good old days...
     
  2. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Aaron Ramsey and Bacary Sagna should be on that list. Also, Sol Campbell should be in the top five.
     
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  3. maskito

    maskito Member+

    Arsenal
    Jan 14, 2006
    Nashville
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard to assess Ramsey since he was injured so often. When healthy, his impact was significant. Sagna is a good mention though.

    I thought Fabregas should be on that list, too, but since he was signed as an academy player, he may not have met the criteria.
     
  4. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  5. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    Right Sol should be 1,2,3 with Henry, Vieria and Sol. We he have had big transfers since Ozil, Alexis, Lacazette, Aubameyang and now Pepe. Just no success with them on form of trophies outside of FA cups.
     
  6. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    God no, its still Liverpool.
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    My beef with these lists is they never account properly for transfer inflation

    e.g according to the TPI model Carrick is one of the most expensive players SAF ever purchased and IIRC Rooney and Rio are two of the most expensive players in EPL history as is Drogba - so the Rooney deal is significantly better than the Drogba one.

    Presumably KDB is ranked so low because he was so expensive in today's money, but that was also in a period of significant inflation.

    IMO there is not much reason to think he is a worse deal than Vieira given he is the best 8 of his generation

    Similarly Henry was not cheap in adjusted money but also not in the 50 highest adjusted prices

    https://tomkinstimes.com/transfer-price-index-top-100-premier-league-buys-after-inflation/
     
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  8. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Carrick was worth every penny. He showed up and they started winning. When he finished they stopped winning.
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Agreed - excellent player - but not cheap
     
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  10. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Wasn’t carrick like 16 million?
     
  11. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    Arsenal v Spurs from Nov 2010 was on this AM. Good match to turn off at halftime.
     
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  13. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I think it was 18m - but that was a lot of money at the time compared to the average transfer (only Chelsea were routinely spending insane amounts). e.g. at that time 17m for Reyes was Arsenal's record signing.

    I still find this model quite fascinating. Carrick cost about the same as Ozil in adjusted money - with Ozil costing 80m+ in 2017 money, which is an indication of how much the TV money inflated the domestic market.

    This makes some kind of sense with quality middies now costing 50m (Bruno) but genuine stars like De Bruyne or peak Ozil would cost way more than that

    https://tomkinstimes.com/2017/07/sh...t-more-plus-top-100-signings-after-inflation/
     
  14. HomeatHighbury

    Mar 25, 2006
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
  15. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I just watched this one. Couldn't really remember whether this was the 4-4 or one of the 5-2's but alas it was that late winner by Kaboul... who remembers him?! Chamakh was our leading scorer at that time???? And this their first and only win at the Grove... at least until Emery came. :(

    And just because I was in the mood for more heartbreak, I then watched TUDN's re-airing of the '06 UCL Final. Haven't had the guts to rewatch that in years. Man we were so close. :mad:

    Forgetting about the results it was really nice to watch some of my old favorite players like Sol, Kolo, Sagna, Freddie, Tomas, ...
     
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  16. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Damn, it's like old home week around here! Or old homeat. A tiny little silver lining to Covid-19?

    Alumni are always welcome back... to visit... or stay.
     
  17. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    ... Henry scores that goal ....
     
  18. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly what I meant. Or maybe Eboue tracks his runner. But the fact that we held the lead with 10 men for 70 minutes... then they score 2 goals in 5' right at the end... brutal.
     
  19. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Honestly I felt we would lose when he missed that because he and everyone else looked so gassed. They ran us ragged.
     
  20. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Spurs will put out a DVD of this year celebrating the things they might have won if all the games hadn't been cancelled.
     
  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You that bored?
    ;)
     
  22. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NBC Sports keeps running goal compilations from past seasons. Dear God, 2008 looks like it was generations ago.
     
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  23. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
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  24. ArsenalTexan3

    ArsenalTexan3 Member

    Arsenal
    Sep 24, 2002
    Jakarta
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Afternoon
     
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  25. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Enjoy live:

     
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