Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    VERY reminiscent of Rooney's goal against City.
    At least Pickford tried. Joe Hart didn't even flinch.
     
  2. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The offside bit is just really well-executed tactics; Villa's defense is excellent at catching opponents offside. Prior to today, they'd done it 58 times this season - next highest was 38.
     
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  3. footykid

    footykid Member+

    Jan 10, 2005
    Mississauga, Ont
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Emery is good at the level where both teams are going to play football. His problems came more when teams just refused to play us.
     
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  4. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eh, I dunno. Where does allowing Watford to take 30 shots on us fall on that scale?
     
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  5. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Ouch
     
  6. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Tbf we had a shit squad and he did what he could with it
     
  7. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    agreed

    It was mich worse than we thought IMO.
     
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  8. Tonerl

    Tonerl Member+

    Arsenal
    May 10, 2006
    Cincinnati, OH
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The squad was bad and the club leadership situation above and around Emery was even worse. He never had a chance.

    Still, I don’t miss him.
     
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  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    so many mediocre players

    lacazette and Mustafi spring to mind
     
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  10. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I hear you, but he fell in love with Guendouzi.
     
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  11. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fwiw, I don't think he's a horrible manager and didn't even when he was with us. But man, there was that period for about 2 months before the club finally cut him loose when we were just dour, awful to watch.
     
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  12. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The 18 months prior to selling RvP were watchable. And now the past 18 months under Arteta.

    There were highlights in between, even a title chase in 2016. But it's been a very long, sometimes painful transition.
     
  13. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    The total capitulation at the end of 2018-19 was the most frustrated I've ever been as a fan.

    A win against any of Everton (8th), Palace (12th), Wolves (7th), Leicester (9th), or Brighton (17th) in the last two months and they qualify for the Champions League.

    All followed up with the bullshit Azerbaijan final where we got annihilated by Chelsea.

    That should've been the end of his story at Arsenal. Wild that he held on until the end of November.
     
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  14. ArsenalJake

    ArsenalJake Member+

    Feb 11, 2013
    Charlotte
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. That narrative is painful.
     
  15. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Hated that whole window of time. We should have been comfortably top 3, and the final should never have been in a country where a player who was important for us at the time COULD NOT BE ASSURED OF HIS SAFETY IF HE PLAYED.
     
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  16. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    How? Villa have deployed the offside trap the most successfully this season. Spurs fell into their trap.
     
  17. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    The first part I agree with, early in the game Spurs missed 2 or 3 clear cut chances, but the offside stuff is deliberate and they should get credit for that. They have played a high line for a while, they play the offside trap excellently and Son fell for it so often you wonder what was going on between his ears.
     
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  18. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Udogie skied a golden chance and Kulu hit the post when he had 3/4 the net to aim at. Villa woulda been down 2-0 in the first 5 minutes. Well-executed trap or not, Villa got lucky that Spurs crapped down their pants when presented with opportunities.
     
  19. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Yeah villa were lucky and clinical
     
  20. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Not going to quote anyone here because I don't want anyone to feel picked on, and because I'm picking on everyone.

    To those of you rehabilitating Unai Emery:

    Your opinions are bad and you should feel bad.
     
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  21. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, I'm pretty sure I said after the Baku debacle that I didn't think he was right for the job. I just don't think he's horrible.
     
  22. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    who is doing that?

    i just don’t believe there is much managerial impact. Both late phase weng and emery were managers who had no Alpha combined with an top 6 type squad.
     
  23. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Dude.

    Wenger's final season had an xGD of ~25
    Emery's first season had an xGD of ~7

    And Emery got substantial investment in his squad when he took over. Wenger was significantly better than you realize.

    For comparison, Arsenal last season were ~+31 xGD, and this was the first season Arsenal were better than they were in the season that got Wenger fired.
     
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  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Emery wasn’t the guy for Arsenal but we had a shit squad

    wenger was more attack minded but I don’t think he wouldn’t done any better the following year

    we were treading water for years
     
  25. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Right but as we discussed before, the reason Arse were slipping season on season under Weng was the declining quality of the first team which had been very dependent on the output of Alexis, Ozil and Giroud in particular
     

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