Victims of a Campaign- The Other Footy Teams Thread

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    A remoaner can never manage england
     
  2. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    the only thing finished is this country
     
  3. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Arteta would have won that final with the players there.

    Southgate is a fraud. This is an example of a golden generation getting an opportunity when the favourite, France, gets done in an upset.
     
  4. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I meant England stopped attacking after 25 minutes
     
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  5. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
    Sunshine California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #27430 gunner7, Jul 13, 2021
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    I thought Southgate did pretty well throughout the whole tournament tho. Much better than deschamp and low. Germany needs to sack Low tho
     
  6. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
  7. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've got good news for you!
     
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  8. casoccerdad47

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    Mar 31, 2006
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Jogi quit before the Euros after the fiasco against spain

    I think this was how he avoided getting sacked
     
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  10. gunner7

    gunner7 Member+

    Jul 27, 2008
    Sunshine California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Lol I’m not up-to-date with the news. Germany are in a golden age with regards to manager. There are plenty good German managers to pick from and rebuild
     
  11. Dage

    Dage Moderator
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    Jun 4, 2008
    Berlin
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Not sure about Southgate with a better performance. It's just that England's players had better form.
     
  12. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As someone who's watched from the outside, it really is amazing your lot had the likes of LeTissier and never thought of taking him in with the England squad. He would be the type that would have other teams frightened because he could think of something on the fly during play.
     
  13. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know we've had these arguments in the early 90s when no one wanted a shootout to decide a final.

    Then as soon as golden goals start flying in left and right, people clamored to return to the shootout.
     
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  14. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You know, still have a small chuckle every once in a while whenever USA 94 is ever mentioned. British media were so convinced that the games would be played before "half-empty stadia" without realizing that America truly is a nation of immigrants. Must've choked on their drinks when they saw every single venue at the WC was filled to the rafters.

    Watching 80,000 fans fill up Giants Stadium for ITA/IRL was not without irony concidering many of their ancestors went to Ellis Island not too far away.
     
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  15. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I wasn't meaning to cast any aspersions on the tourney itself - as you say the venues were amazing

    It was more that some of the great talents were wasted on very defensive football.
     
  16. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Every American I met who moved to Aus ALWAYS asked for a good local football team to sign their kids up for or to play at themselves. You guys love the sport, same goes for Aussies.

    I remember when Australia flirted with the idea of hosting a World Cup and people said we wouldn't fill stadiums, when Australians will go and ********ing fill a stadium to watch bullfrog racing if it was on.

    Sports loving countries always fill stadiums.

    Olympics in Brisbane are going to be ********ing wild.
     
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  17. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't think the 90 WC was defensive? Blaghh. Maybe it was because it came on the heels of the 86 WC, which was great viewing, but I thought 90 was poor --- despite being excited the U.S. had finally qualified. Wasn't it after the 90 WC that FIFA finally prohibited keepers from picking up back passes? Didn't that Cup also have the lowest "goals-per-match" numbers of any Cup?

    No doubt, the final in the 94 WC was pretty defensive and ugly. But I thought there were a lot of good matches prior to that one. And surprisingly, the "goals-per-match" numbers for 94 were even better than 86.
     
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  18. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    You are probably right - the final clouds the memory

    I actually remember moments of '82 much more than '86, 90 or 94 ;)

    The thing that makes it hard to compare is in the 80s; despite defensive tactics, games could be very open due to lack of close marking, pressing etc
     
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  19. yossarian

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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1982 was the first WC I can recall really paying attention to but other than the semis and finals, I don't recall much else being on TV in the States. 1986 was fully televised on Univision (Spanish language) and a lot was on ESPN.
     
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  20. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    Villa have thrown £25mil for Ward-Prowse and had it rejected.
    City have thrown a £100mil off at Villa for Grealish.

    Villa having a bad time this transfer window. Going to look silly getting Buendia but then losing Grealish and getting shot down by us and Southampton.
     
  21. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't believe JWP is still at Soton, to be honest. They're a selling club and he's been sneaky good for years.
     
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  22. And_ROOS

    And_ROOS Member+

    Dec 30, 2006
    Melbourne, Aus
    The Soton fans on twitter etc are saying 25mil is a piss take offer just like the initial offer they made us for ESR, and they would need to have started at 35-40 for it to even be looked at.

    Now all Villa have done is annoy Soton and Arsenal with their shit lowballs.

    Flip side is that John Percy has broken the story about the 100mil offer for Grealish, and he is tier 0 for Villa so an offer has definitely been made.

    Its interesting because the City fans on the sites im on think thats an agreed value and that bid will be enough. Villa fans are split between that being the first of a few bids, or that Grealish signs a new contract to stay with them.
     
  23. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Italia '90 was a decidedly unsexy display of football. That's why so much of the hype during the event was about the venues, and being in a country that worshipped the game, and Madonna, etc. But the matches themselves as best I recall were not dynamic, to the point my coach at the time during a team watch party felt the need to apologize.

    I will say that I might feel differently if the event had TV production and analysis comparable to today. What was available then, however, was little more than a handful of camera angles and maybe one analyst in the studio that knew his stuff, with nary a stat mentioned besides goals.
     
  24. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ward prowse takes good set pieces and can pass

    he’s small, not the quickest or best defensively

    villa have a better player in that position already
     
  25. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've never understood the hype surrounding him. Average midfielder whose ability to take a good set piece raises his profile to slightly above average.
     
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