56’ CP:MU More VAR offside nonsense. I maintain it is impossible to make this call. yes, computers can tell you if one player is nearer the goal line than another. But they can’t definitively determine the “moment”. There is a margin of error there. so however accurate they can be with closer, they cannot definitively say he was off. it is a total fallacy
Any thoughts on the disallowed goal in the Fire v Vancouver game this morning? Scrum on the goal line between two Vancouver defenders and one Chicago attacker. Goal allowed and then recalled for handling. In the multiple replays they showed, I can't identify anything clear or obvious to overturn the goal. Don't have direct link to replay but there is a separate clip in the match highlights: https://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/m...icago-fire-fc-vs-vancouver-whitecaps-fc/recap
In terms of what is "clear and obvious" on this call, the VAR/referee simply need to have video evidence that the ball touched Sapong's arm. The handling is accidental, and it's only an offense because a goal is scored, but the Law is not ambiguous, and this isn't a case where they're looking at the position of the arm or anything like you'd have with a more conventional handball offense.
It hit the attacker's hand. Villarreal is clear in demonstrating that after the OFR. There's no controversy here. That's not a goal anymore. And, you could make an argument it never was as that probably ticks the box for deliberate handling in the old days, though admittedly that would have been more debatable.
Perhaps deliberate under the old Laws, but I wouldn't ever describe it as such now unless I was giving a caution for it.
Very aware of the changes to the LoTG in regards to scoring a goal and agree that was the decision. I guess where I am getting hung up is I just don't see anything in the replays where I can definitively state that the ball touched the attackers arm. I would guess with 90% certainty it did, but I can't convince myself 100% based on the views in that replay.
Not a good weekend for the Dutch VAR. Two red cards were recinded, one for Ajax player Álvarez for stamping on his opponents leg and one for Sparta Rotterdam player Mica Pinto, who got red carded for preventing a goal with his arm.
Red cards given via VAR were then rescinded by the league? Or red cards given by the referee were rescinded after VAR intervention?
I dunno how it's called in English but the players took a complain to the appeal court of the league. Red cards were VAR approved/instigated by VAR.
Random thought of the day... after watching some la liga this morning and saw a few of the matrix- style 3D imaging that allows free rotation of the image, I wonder why such a thing is not used for VAR. set the last touch frame, then compile the 3D image, and rotate. It would be more accurate than setting the lines on the ground and guessing if body parts above it are in front or behind. Wouldn’t take any more cameras than exist, but I bet takes some significant computing power to do. It could also serve as a virtual AAR for things in the left corner that are unsighted by both referee and ar.
I didn’t understand that call at all. if it is determined the defender doesn’t play the ball, I expected a pk. If it is determined the defender plays the ball, goal stands. I never expected a foul going out. Liverpool have gotten the short end of VAR a lot this year.
forward dives in with his cleats right at the GK who's on the ground. Seems like a simple foul call to me. I was fairly shocked it wasn't called in real time
But it wasn’t right at the keeper. The keeper is well to the player’s right when he attempts to play the ball. The keeper comes across the leg. At no time were his “cleats right at the keeper”.
Have I been learning refereeing wrong all these years? Please someone explain how that is NOT a foul. BTW...we are talking TOT v BHA about 57 mins.
I’m not sure why we are using this thread to discuss EPL when there is an EPL thread. I’m actually not sure why we are using this thread anymore at all. VAR is part of officiating now. To the extent it needs to be discussed, barring reforms to the system, it can be done in individual match or league threads so as to avoid confusion and duplication. Thread closed.