"Vai e Vem" (Signings, Rumors, Hires/Fires, etc) & Offseason Thread [R]

Discussion in 'Brazil: Clubs and Competitions' started by Mengão86, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I wish. Would be great , especially since that squad is used to attacking.
     
  2. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    And they said the "fun" football debates about wrong calls would go away with VAR ... :ROFLMAO:
     
  3. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA
    You make a good point. Cruzeiro has been in a funk and if Mano Menezes, who was there for years and who won 2 consecutive Copas do Brasil, couldn't get the team to start performing, Ceni may well not have what it takes either. I love Ceni for everything he did for SPFC, but he's still less experienced than someone like Menezes. If he fails this year, it could be a stain on his developing career as a manager.

    It is a gamble. If he makes Cruzeiro one of Brazil's best teams again, then he'll definitely enjoy the payoff. But will the gamble pay off?
     
  4. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    [​IMG]

    Put a fork in them.
     
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  5. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Yep. No chance with this.
     
  6. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  7. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Eu acho que nao vem.
     
  8. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  9. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
     
  10. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I don't think Sampaoli asked to leave. I think Santos already knows and are trying to collect the contract breakout fee.

    They are now leaking info that Sampaoli wanted a % of player transfer from players that he "discovered".
     
  11. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Did you see the demands he made in order to continue? He wants a flamengo like budget and also demanded Santos not play games in the city of sp. None of this is realistic with the current economics of the club. He doesn't want to stay.
     
  12. Century's Best

    Century's Best Member+

    Jul 29, 2003
    USA

    He also wanted chartered flights.

    Whether he was deliberately forcing Santos to release him or whether he thought he was entitled to that, who knows. I can understand why he'd want reinforcements, but Santos simply lacks the budget.

    If he ends up in Palmeiras, on one hand, with the roster it has and with the players Palmeiras can afford, Palmeiras could be the Flamengo of 2020. On the other hand, if Palmeiras does not win at least one major title - Libertadores, Campeonato Brasileiro, or Copa do Brasil - it could hurt them fiscally in the long run. I read an article about how Palmeiras fans need to look at Cruzeiro and be aware that if Palmeiras' management makes mistakes the way mistakes were made at Cruzeiro, that Palmeiras could have a similar fate.
     
  13. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Obvious he is forcing his way out without saying he is quitting. Santos giving him a big middle finger by going public saying he quit. The Santos president never liked him and he would have been gone a long time ago if he wasn't doing a fantastic job. They apparently haven't spoken directly in 5 months.
     
  14. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    The contract breakup fee in Sampaoli's contract with Santos expired today (R$10). No wonder Santos went public saying Sampaoli was quitting. The funny party is that Santos said he said on Tuesday night that he was quitting on Monday during their meeting. But throughout the day on Monday and Tuesday Santos was telling the "setoristas" that there were still chances they could get into an agreement with Sampaoli. :ROFLMAO:
     
  15. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Luan from Gremio to Corinthians. Not sure that's a good fit. Tiago Nunes said privately to a reporter that he isn't going to change Corinthians style that much. At least not from the start.
     
  16. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Anderson Barros from Botafogo will be Mattos replacement. That's Palmeiras 4th choice. Other options supposedly got turned off by the fact that the new director won't have the same power Mattos had. There will be a council to oversee things.
     
  17. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  18. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
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    Surely, some of these options aren't up for consideration.....
     
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  19. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Don't laugh. Mickey Mouse Cup is ours this year.

    I am surprised you haven't gone back to that comment I made at the beginning of the year about Flamengo winning it. I was fully expecting it. :ROFLMAO:
     
  20. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil


    @Emperor Adriano congrats on the gig on SporTV :ROFLMAO:
     
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  21. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    lol. I wish I got his view for the libertadores. It was awesome seeing him standing on the field during the game.
    Jesus won me over and this sounds crazy from pet but he might be right.
     
  22. Emperor Adriano

    Emperor Adriano Member+

    Jun 17, 2009
    Utica NY (the refugee city)
    Club:
    Santos FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I'd like to see the salesjob trying to sell carille and abel braga to the fans.
     
  23. Mengão86

    Mengão86 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Flamengo
    Brazil
    Nov 16, 2005
    Maryland, RJ/ES/PE
    Club:
    Flamengo Rio Janeiro
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
  24. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    I am not really that bummed. Reports of Sampaoli's personality at Santos tell me it could have been a disaster for us. Only problem is I have no clue who they are going to look for. The first obvious rumor that always gets thrown around ... Luxa ... who just left Vasco. The guy who was saying Vasco was his last job and now would be coming back ? :ROFLMAO:
     
  25. celito

    celito Member+

    Palmeiras
    Brazil
    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Ceni staying Fortaleza. Athletico were after him.
     

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