USMNT Player Pool for the 2022 Cycle

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  1. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the looks of it he has played for the NT since 07.
     
  2. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    One less player to injure players with a real chance at playing for the NT.

    Boswell was a dirty player.
     
  3. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    so a non factor in the US NT retired before all of those 30+ year olds who failed to make the WC. Most countries after a failure to qualify, their aging/older players retire very quickly after the setback. Not 3 months later and still nothing.....
     
  4. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    #104 DHC1, Jan 7, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 7, 2018
    Big 4 UCL regular playing time
    • Pulisic/BVB
    Big 4 non-UCL regular
    • McKennie/Schalke
    • FJ/Gladbach
    • Chandler/Eintracht
    • Brooks/Wolfsburg
    • Williams/Huddersfield
    • Yedlin/Newcastle
    • Wood/Hamburg
    • Cameron/Stoke
    3rd Tier regular (about leagues 5-15)
    • Miazga/Vitesse
    • JGonzalez/Monterrey
    • CCV/Sheffield United
    • Saeif/Gent
    • Villafana/Santos (not sure he has regular minutes)
    • Robinson/Bolton (had to look him up....)
    4th Tier regular (about leagues 16-25 ~ MLS)
    • Amon/FC Nordsjælland
    • Siebatcheau/Reims
    • Green/Furth
    • Morales/Ingolstadt



    Not sure how to slot these players relative to the list above.

    Big 4 UCL Irregular/Reserve
    • EPB/ManCity
    Big 4 non-UCL Irregular/Reserve
    • Shaq/Levante
    • Stanko/Freiburg (very close to regular minutes?)
    • Sargent/Bremen
    • Klinnsman/Hertha
    • Hyndman/Bournemouth
    • Johanssen/Bremen
    • Zelalem/Arsenal
    3rd Tier Irregular/Reserve (about leagues 5-15)
    • Parks/Benefica
    • Gooch/Sunderland
    4th Tier Reserve (about leagues 16-25 ~ MLS)
    • Wright/Sandhausen
    • Horvath/Brugge

    Green = potential to rise to higher level

    Red = risk of falling to a lower level or getting benched
    Italics = American born/raised outside of the US, whose USMNT success apparently indicates that the US' "developmental system fails to produce good players"
     
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  5. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated the coaches pool to include the Jan camp...

    Here is the link to the Google Sheet

    So far Sarachan (is he still the coach?) has 1 game and 1 camp since taking over.

    1 Camps:
    (1) Jan Camp

    1 Rosters/Games:
    (1) Portugal

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Rules for this pool:
    • Sarachan has/had to list a player on a roster or call them up to a camp/game
    • All info (Minutes Played, Caps, Camps etc) is accumulated from when Sarachan took over

    Edit: use the tabs along the bottom of the spread sheet to view positions.
     
  6. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes, Sarachan is still the coach.
     
  7. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #107 Eleven Bravo, Jan 13, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2018
    USMNT Top 50 January 2018 Update


    GOALKEEPERS:

    1. ↗ Bill Hamid, 1990(31), FC Midtjylland

    2. ↑ Zack Steffen, 1995(27), Columbus Crew

    3. ↓ Ethan Horvath, 1995(26), Club Brugge

    4. → Jesse Gonzalez, 1995(27), FC Dallas

    5. ↑ Alex Bono, 1994(28), Toronto FC


    On the Bubble:

    · ↑ Tim Melia, 1986(36), Sporting Kansas City

    · ↗ Brad Guzan, 1984(37), Atlanta United

    · → Sean Johnson, 1989(33), New York City FC

    · → Joe Bendik, 1989(33) Orlando City

    · → Cody Cropper, 1993(29) New England Revolution


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↑ Justin Garces, 2000*(21), Atlanta United

    · ↓ Jonathan Klinsmann, 1997*(25) Hertha Berlin

    · → JT Marcinkowski, 1997*(20) San Jose Earthquakes

    · → Brady Scott, 1999*(22) FC Koln


    RIGHT BACKS:

    1. ↑ DeAndre Yedlin, 1993(28), Newcastle United

    2. ↑ Shaquell Moore, 1996(25), Levante

    3. ↑ Tim Chandler, 1990(32) Eintracht Frankfurt

    4. ↑ Matt Polster, 1993(28) Chicago Fire


    On the Bubble:

    · ↑ Jakob Nerwinski, 1994(27) Vancouver Whitecaps

    · → Andrew Farrell, 1992(30) New England Revolution

    · ↗ Marlon Hairston, 1994(28) Colorado Rapids

    · ↘ Keegan Rosenberry, 1993(28) Philadelphia Union


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↑ Sergino Dest, 2000*(21) Ajax Amsterdam

    · ↗ Marlon Fossey, 1998*(23), Fulham (*injured*)

    · ↗ Jaylin Lindsey, 2000*(22) Sporting Kansas City

    · ↗ Matthew Olosunde, 1998*(24), Manchester United

    · → Reggie Cannon, 1998*(23), FC Dallas


    CENTER BACKS:

    1. ↑ John Brooks, 1993(29), Wolfsburg

    2. ↑ Matt Miazga, 1995(26), Chelsea > Vitesse Arnhem

    3. ↑ Cameron Carter-Vickers, 1997*(24), Tottenham Hotspur > Sheffield United

    4. ↑ Justen Glad, 1997*(25), Real Salt Lake

    5. ↗ Tim Parker, 1993(29), Vancouver Whitecaps

    6. ↗ Eric Palmer-Brown, 1997*(25), Manchester City

    7. → Walker Zimmermann, 1993(29), Los Angeles FC

    8. ↗ Aaron Long, 1992(29), New York Red Bulls

    9. ↑ Ike Opara, 1989(33) Sporting Kansas City


    On the Bubble:

    · ↗ Eriq Zavaleta, 1992(29), Toronto FC

    · ↗ Kortne Ford, 1996(26), Colorado Rapids

    · → Steve Birnbaum, 1991(31), DC United

    · → Matt Hedges, 1990(32), FC Dallas


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↗ Tommy Redding, 1997*(25), Orlando City

    · → Miles Robinson, 1997*(25), Atlanta United

    · → Auston Trusty, 1998*(23), Philadelphia Union

    · → James Sands, 2000*(21) New York City FC


    LEFT BACKS:

    1. ↑ Eric Lichaj, 1988(33) Nottingham Forest

    2. → Greg Garza, 1991(30), Atlanta United

    3. → Brandon Vincent, 1994(28), Chicago Fire

    4. ↑ Antonee Robinson, 1997*(24) Everton > Bolton Wanderers

    5. ↗ Danilo Acosta, 1997*(24) Real Salt Lake


    On the Bubble:

    · ↘ Jorge Villafana, 1989(32) Santos Laguna

    · ↗ Nick Lima, 1994(27), San Jose Earthquakes

    · ↘ Desevio Payne, 1995(26) Excelsior

    · → Justin Morrow, 1987(34) Toronto FC


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↗ Marco Farfan, 1998*(23), Portland Timbers

    · ↗ Chris Gloster, 2000*(21) New York Red Bulls

    · ↗ George Bello, 2002*(20) Atlanta United


    CENTER MIDFIELDERS:

    1. ↑ Weston McKennie, 1998*(23) Schalke

    2. ↑ Cristian Roldan, 1995(26) Seattle Sounders

    3. ↑ Tyler Adams, 1999*(23) New York Red Bulls

    4. ↘ Kellyn Acosta, 1995(25) FC Dallas

    5. ↗ Wil Trapp, 1993(29) Columbus Crew

    6. ↗ Marky Delgado, 1995(27) Toronto FC

    7. ↗ Danny Williams, 1989(33) Huddersfield Town

    *8t. ↑ Juan Torres, 1999*(22) Lokeren

    *8t. ↗ Russell Canouse, 1995(26) DC United

    *8t. ↑ Keaton Parks, 1997*(24) Benfica


    On the Bubble:

    · ↗ Alfredo Morales, 1990(32) FC Ingolstadt

    · ↗ Perry Kitchen, 1992(30) LA Galaxy

    · → Ian Harkes, 1995(27) DC United

    · ↘ Emerson Hyndman, 1996(26) Bournemouth


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↗ Chris Durkin, 2000*(22) DC United

    · ↗ Chris Goslin, 2000*(22) Atlanta United

    · ↗ Jackson Yeuill, 1997*(25) San Jose Earthquakes

    · → Derrick Jones, 1997*(25) Philadelphia Union

    · → Taylor Booth, 2001*(21) Real Salt Lake

    · → Eryk Williamson, 1997*(24) unattached

    · → Djordje Mihailovic, 1998*(23) Chicago Fire (*injured*)

    · ↓ Gedion Zelalem, 1997*(25) Arsenal (*injured*)


    WIDE/ATTACKING MIDFIELDERS:

    1. ↑ Christian Pulisic, 1998*(23) Borussia Dortmund

    2. ↗ Paul Arriola, 1995(27) DC United

    3. ↑ Jonathan Amon, 1999*(23) FC Nordsjaelland

    4. ↗ Lynden Gooch, 1995(26) Sunderland

    5. ↘ Darlington Nagbe, 1990(31) Atlanta United

    6. → Kelyn Rowe, 1991(30) New England Revolution

    7. → Kenny Saief, 1993(28) Anderlecht

    8. → Brooks Lennon, 1997*(24), Real Salt Lake

    9. ↓ Sebastian Lletget, 1992(29), LA Galaxy


    On the Bubble:

    · ↗ Ethan Finlay, 1990(31) Minnesota United

    · ↗ Joel Sonora, 1996(25), Stuttgart

    · → Kekuta Manneh, 1994(27) Pachuca (*Gambia Dual National*)

    · → Joe Corona, 1990(31) Club Tijuana

    · → Alex Muyl, 1995(26) New York Red Bulls

    · ↘ Tommy Thompson, 1995(26) San Jose Earthquakes


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↗ Luca De la Torre, 1998*(24) Fulham

    · ↗ Nick Taitague, 1999*(23), Schalke

    · ↗ Andrew Carleton, 2000*(21) Atlanta United

    · ↗ Kyle Scott, 1997*(24) Chelsea

    · → Sebastian Saucedo, 1997*(25) Real Salt Lake

    · → Jonathan Lewis, 1997*(24) New York City FC

    · ↓ Mukwalle Akale, 1997*(25) Villarreal


    FORWARDS:

    1. ↓ Bobby Wood, 1992(29), Hamburg

    2. ↑ CJ Sapong, 1988(33), Philadelphia Union

    3. → Dom Dwyer, 1990(31), Orlando City

    4. ↗ Josh Sargent, 2000*(22), Werder Bremen

    5. ↘ Haji Wright, 1998*(24), Schalke > Sandhausen

    6. → Christian Ramirez, 1991(31), Minnesota United

    7. ↗ Jordan Siebatcheu, 1992(26) Reims (*France Dual National*)

    8. → Jordan Morris, 1994(26), Seattle Sounders

    9. → Jozy Altidore, 1989(32), Toronto FC


    On the Bubble:

    · ↗ Terrence Boyd, 1991(31) Darmstadt

    · ↗ Andrija Novakovich, 1996(25) Reading > Telstar

    · ↗ Bradford Jamieson, 1996(25), LA Galaxy

    · ↗ Julian Green, 1995(26), Stuttgart > Gruther Furth

    · → Fafa Picault, 1991(31), Philadelphia Union

    · → Juan Agudelo, 1992(29), New England Revolution

    · → Patrick Mullins, 1992(30), DC United

    · → Aron Johannsson, 1990(31) Werder Bremen

    · ↘ Gyasi Zardes, 1991(30), LA Galaxy

    · ↓ Jerome Kiesewetter, 1993(29) Fortuna Dusseldorf

    · ↓ Andrew Wooten, 1989(32) Sandhausen

    · ↓ Rubio Rubin, 1996(26) unattached


    Olympic Players to Watch:

    · ↑ Timothy Weah, 2000*(22), Paris SG

    · ↗ Joshua Perez, 1998*(24) Fiorentina > Livorno

    · ↗ Timothy Tillman, 1999*(23) Bayern Munich

    · ↗ Josh Pynadath, 2002*(20) Ajax Amsterdam

    · → Paxton Pomykal, 1999*(22), FC Dallas

    · → Jeremy Ebobisse, 1997*(25), Portland Timbers

    · → Konrad De La Fuente, 2001*(20), FC Barcelona

    · → Gianluca Busio, 2002*(20), Sporting Kansas City

    · → Ayo Akinola, 2000*(22), Toronto FC

    · → Brandon Vasquez, 1998*(24) Atlanta United

    · → McKenzie Gaines, 1998*(24) Darmstadt

    · → Isaiah Young, 1998*(24) Werder Bremen

    · → Jesus Ferreira, 2000*(21), FC Dallas


    ***UPDATE: Jonathan Gonzalez dropped.
     
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  8. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Walker Zimmerman is with LAFC now.
     
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  9. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks. Fixed
     
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  10. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Klinsmann-Yedlin-Miazga-Brooks-Acosta or Toljan-Palmer-Brown-McKennie-Parks-Pulisic-Taitague/delaFuente/Tillmann-Sargent.

    What am I missing?
     
  11. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Sunny San Diego
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The fact that Toljan isn't going to play for the US.
     
  12. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Big 4 UCL regular playing time
    • Pulisic/BVB
    Big 4 non-UCL regular
    • Chandler/Eintracht
    • Brooks/Wolfsburg
    • Williams/Huddersfield
    • Yedlin/Newcastle
    • FJ/Gladbach
    • Wood/Hamburg
    • Cameron/Stoke
    3rd Tier regular (about leagues 5-15)
    • Miazga/Vitesse
    • Robinson/Bolton
    • CCV/Ipswich
    • Saeif/Gent
    • Villafana/Santos (not sure he has regular minutes)
    • JoGo/Monterrey (ARRGGHHH)
    4th Tier regular (about leagues 16-25 ~ MLS)
    • Amon/FC Nordsjælland
    • Siebatcheau/Reims
    • Green/Furth
    • Morales/Ingolstadt



    Not sure how to slot these players relative to the list above.

    Big 4 UCL Irregular/Reserve/Injured
    • EPB/Floating in Space
    Big 4 non-UCL Irregular/Reserve/Injured
    • McKennie/Schalke (arrgghhh)
    • Shaq/Levante
    • Stanko/Freiburg
    • Sargent/Bremen
    • Klinnsman/Hertha
    • AronJo/Bremen
    • Hyndman/Bournemouth
    • Johanssen/Bremen
    • Zelalem/Arsenal
    3rd Tier Irregular/Reserve/Injured (about leagues 5-15)
    • Parks/Benefica
    • Gooch/Sunderland
    • LD/Leon
    4th Tier Reserve/Injured (about leagues 16-25 ~ MLS)
    • Wright/Sandhausen
    • Horvath/Brugge
    • Hamid/Midtjylland

    Green = potential to rise to higher level

    Red = risk of falling to a lower level or getting benched
    Italics = American born/raised outside of the US, whose USMNT success apparently indicates that the US' "developmental system fails to produce good players"[/QUOTE]
     
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  13. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We should make "EPB Floating in Space" his YA thread title. :confused:
     
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  14. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I'm sorely disappointed that I didn't get a rep!
     
  15. TheFalseNine

    TheFalseNine Moderator
    Staff Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Jul 15, 2014
    Norman, Okla.
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Done! :)
     
  16. Footsatt

    Footsatt Member+

    Apr 8, 2008
    Michigan
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Updated the coaches pool to include the B & H game minutes...

    Here is the link to the Google Sheet

    So far Sarachan has 2 games and 1 camp since taking over.

    1 Camps:
    (1) Jan Camp

    2 Rosters/Games:
    (1) Portugal, (2) B & H

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Rules for this pool:
    • Sarachan has/had to list a player on a roster or call them up to a camp/game
    • All info (Minutes Played, Caps, Camps etc) is accumulated from when Sarachan took over

    Edit: use the tabs along the bottom of the spread sheet to view positions.
     
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  17. Cynical US fan

    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The more one looks at player pools for 2022, the more it seems likely that we
    won't qualify. It would be interesting to compare the USMNT to another non-qualifier, the Netherlands, for instance. They'll probably qualify next time though their UEFA competition is usually better than CONCACAF. 2022 is so far far away; how could anyone predict anything about the USMNT?
     
  18. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I agree. If we look at the loss to Costa Rica at home in September (0-2) we see that our main problem is scoring. You don't qualify if you don't score goals. Canada has some real good talent coming up the ranks and could provide competition for us if they get serious about their program. It is more likely they will get more serious as they become more immersed in soccer thru the MLS franchises. Next consider that Jamaica would have been more threatening than Trinidad had they made the hex.

    With the pool expanding in the USA, there is more room for corruption in marketing the team which is something we have already seen in the failed 2018 cycle. I don't see the media playing it straight so the only hope is for a more educated soccer public that will demand solid players.
     
  19. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    ooh so the media isn't playing it straight? how so? the problem is people dismissing people like you dismissing people because they don't agree with you and then calling them a cartel or 'not playing it straight'. Like the media somehow wanted the us to miss the world cup...you realize the people that lost the most money out of the world cup fiasco is the media? fox put billions in a tournament that the us isn't playing in. espn literally has little reason to even employ soccer people at this point.
     
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  20. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    https://www.theplayerstribune.com/geoff-cameron-what-must-change-in-u-s-soccer/
    At Stoke, sometimes we have a few of the academy kids come and fill in during practice if we need some extra bodies, and we can usually tell within the first five minutes — seriously, within the first five — whether or not the kid is going to make it as a pro. There’s a certain mentality. A certain look in their eyes. A certain demeanor when they take a really hard tackle. You can recognize it almost instantly.
    It has nothing to do with athleticism or size — attributes that the scouts and coaches in U.S. Soccer seem obsessed with sometimes. I remember the first time I trained with Bojan Krkić at Stoke. He’s listed at like 5′ 7″, but he looked more like 4′ 10″. And the guy was just an absolute animal out there. He’d made it through the Barcelona system at that size. I remember thinking to myself, What would’ve happened if he had come up in U.S. Soccer?


    I’ll never forget a club coach telling me, when I was maybe 14 years old, that I would never make it as a pro because I was “too small.”

    (I grew to be 6′ 4″.)

    But this is the mentality that is so toxic across the board in youth soccer in America. It’s not about proving yourself every day. It’s about what you did last year. It’s about who you know. It’s about your size. It’s about your reputation. It’s about what fancy youth club you play for.

    If you want to see what’s wrong with U.S. Soccer in a single image, just go out to one of these fancy suburbs some weekend and spot the coaches of the fancy club teams strutting on the sidelines. Half of them are carrying themselves like they’re Pep Guardiola. I mean, the arrogance. It’s unbelievable.
     
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  21. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    you are doing that right now lol.

    you started with a post about canada being great at player development and the us not because of 'corruption'(not sure you know what it means) and us media not 'playing it straight'...I replied to those comments and you came back with me something about pep wannabe coaching a youth team down the road. So I am confused now is the issue the corrupt marketing teams who instead of making millions on soccer have decided to lose millions because a guy down the road thinks he is pep?

    so I'll ask again what is the marketing 'corruption' and what do you mean by the media 'not playing it straight'.
     
  22. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    No, that is not what I said. If you cant read, we can't have a discussion.
     
  23. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006

    which part didn't you say I can quote you either way read ur comment about canada...talent coming up and if they get serious they will be a threat and they most likely will...ur words....then that there is room for more corruption this cycle on top of that we've already seen in the 2018 cycle...which didn't you say?
     
  24. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    What are you talking about? I can't make heads or tails of anything you are saying. Sorry.
     
  25. a_new_fan

    a_new_fan Member+

    Jul 6, 2006
    you said that isn't what you said...what didn't you say.
     

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