USL General News thread

Discussion in 'United Soccer Leagues' started by thefishy, Sep 28, 2014.

  1. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the Eastern Conference ???
     
  2. EPJr

    EPJr Member+

    Mar 21, 2009
    Richmond VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The groups:
    Group E:
    Indy Eleven
    Louisville City FC
    Saint Louis FC
    Sporting Kansas City II

    Group F:
    Hartford Athletic
    Loudoun United FC
    NYRB II
    Philadelphia Union II
    Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC

    Group G:
    Birmingham Legion FC
    Charlotte Independence
    Memphis 901 FC
    North Carolina FC

    Group H:
    Atlanta United 2
    Charleston Battery
    Miami FC
    Tampa Bay Rowdies

    https://www.frontrowsoccer.com/2020...-philadelphia-pittsburgh-in-usl-championship/
     
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  4. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New USL team coming very soon!
     
  5. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wikipedia is showing East Bay and Queensboro FC in 2021. Rhode Island in 2022 and Buffalo and Des Moines sometime after that.
    Is you reference to one of these locations or yet another one?
     
  6. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its taking the place of one of those 4. It’s still being finalized but is happening.
     
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  7. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I won't be too surprised if a couple of that group don't pan out.
    It will be interesting to see how the conferences are set up if there are 5 teams added in the next couple of years.
     
  8. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No doubt. Don’t know too much about the league to be honest but I’ll certainly be tuning in to watch a lot more now.
     
  9. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    Reno 1868 FC and Nevada Coyotes FC (UPSL)
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is great they signed up with ESPN+ when their contract with YouTube ended.
     
  10. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That’s awesome that will make it super easy for me cause I’m no longer in the area so I can’t catch local broadcast.
     
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  11. msilverstein47

    msilverstein47 Member+

    Jan 11, 1999
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. canammj

    canammj Member

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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    I can't open the link , but was there any mention they may be playing in a Canadian League in the future?
    Glad to see Ottawa move from USL to CPL. If TFC2 moves its operations to a Canadian league, then we are basically left with the 3 MLS teams and the USL2 teams. We are getting a bit closer to having as many Canadian teams playing in Canada as possible.
     
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  13. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The CPL has absolutely no interest in having a MLS2 team in their league and there isn't a suitable nationwide league below CPL. There is a "state league" in Ontario, but its more on par with PDL and isn't likely to meet TFC's criteria for a league to have their team in.

    Ottawa didn't move to CPL. The Fury closed up shop after last season and Atletico Madrid started a new team in Ottawa to replace them
     
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  14. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the quarantine restrictions in place for travel, as well as the fact that, to be frank, Toronto FC has never actually cared about TFC II as a program, is it truly a loss for League One?
     
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  15. Yoshou

    Yoshou Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 12, 2009
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What do you mean by TFC not actually caring about TFCII?
     
  16. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it has to do with the complexities of reentering Canada after every away game.

    I don't know why you think TFC don't take their reserve team seriously when half their first team roster have minutes with TFC II.
     
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  17. VBCity72

    VBCity72 Member+

    Aug 17, 2014
    Oki, J-pan
    Club:
    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't they play several of their games last season in Rochester? I wonder if they could try to see if the city would let them do it again.
     
  18. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They played 3 games there in 2018. They now have a permanent home at TFC's training facility.
     
  19. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Blue Jays won't be playing in Canada any time soon either.
     
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  20. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Being a reserve team, you'd expect there to be some semblance of player development, but given the fact that Toronto FC has been able to win in spite of having a reserve squad, their records haven't exactly helped with my beliefs.

    In each of their five seasons, they've never qualified for league playoffs (which, again, isn't the priority, but it helps prove you got some talent in your pipeline and aren't just relying on spending money on free agency), but in the four United Soccer League/USL Championship seasons they partook in, they ranked at or near the bottom of competition. Last year was easily their best season ever, but you can argue that the lower level of competition helped the playing field and made a horrific Championship team look like a below average League One team.
     
  21. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well that's why they dropped a level. TFC II is an important stepping stone for kids that came up through the academy.
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    If there's a correlation between the success of first division clubs and their minor league affiliates, it isn't a strong one. My personal history of fandom is rife with counter examples. The top flight Atlanta Braves of the late 80s-mid 90s moved players through hapless Durham. Then expansion and woeful Tampa picked up the Bulls who became multiple AAA champions while the Rays propped up the AL East. The Royals were losing 100 games a year while several of their farm clubs (like the Wilmington Blue Rocks) were winning their leagues. In hockey, some of the Hurricanes worst years have been when the Checkers were at the top of the ECHL.

    Some of that is the cyclical nature of things. Some of it is the way drafting works (bad teams get better draft picks and better prospects for their minors). Some of it (like the Braves) is they way they use their minors - to build assets to sell/trade to get already developed players that can help them today.

    Having a bad or underperforming minor league club doesn't mean a club doesn't care about the minor league club. It may mean that having the minor league club focus on winning is something that isn't particularly important. Perhaps technical and tactical player development is more important. Maybe getting specific players minutes in general or in a specific position is more important than playing someone else who might actually be better at helping win a specific game.

    When the Durham Bulls were the Braves A-Advanced farm team, I was a season ticket holder who sat in a group that, frankly, would pass as a low grade supporters group. But when you go to 20-40 games year after year, you pick up on things. And we could always tell when a development memo was sent to the Bulls. Suddenly they'd be bunting in situations when bunting wasn't particularly tactical. Or they'd be doing hit and runs like mad. You could tell that player development and internal scouting was more important than seeing the Bulls at the top of the standings.
     
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  23. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Indianapolis
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe it's me, but I can't buy into that logic. My brain wants to think things as a one to one translation and views a team's performance on the field or pitch as a correlation to how things are in the organization, so if a team stinks in the standings, I view it as there being malaise while if they are dominating, then they are doing things right. Certainly as a Sporting Kansas City fan, you look at SKC II being the punching bag of the Championship as part of your team's development as they are motivated by other factors, which is why the reserve team is forced to play almost exclusively on the road this season, but I view it as an embarrassment.
     
  24. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    England
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you look at the USL Western Conference over the last few years Timbers 2, Sounders 2, Whitecaps 2 and Galaxy 2 have pretty poor records. In 2017 comprised the bottom 4.
     
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