Pre-match: USA vs Qatar Gold Cup Knockout Semifinal (7/29)

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 25, 2021.

  1. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I looked at their last 2 matches and they didn’t rotate, FWIW. They used 5 different subs that had a total of 112 minutes in those 2 matches. They do have the advantage of an extra days rest.
     
  2. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’m excited to see how our defense handles a team that presses like Qatar will do.
     
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  3. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    And they will be comfortable playing in a searing hot petro-state.
     
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  4. Reccossu

    Reccossu Member+

    Jan 31, 2005
    Birmingham
    You may regret saying that!
     
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  5. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair, but I want to see if Turner, Moore, Vines, Sands, Robinson, and Acosta are ready for that next level. Or if they’re just good against scrubs.
     
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  6. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    9 players have started all four of their matches. They've used the same lineup three times, making only two changes for the Grenada match.

    That's not surprising to me, seeing as they are essentially relying on team chemistry to make the most of a limited player pool.
     
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  7. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    We've seen them already against, roughly, Octagonal-quality sides, Canada and Jamaica (not at 100% full strength, but our 2nd 23 will never have to face them without first team help in qualifiers, anyway). What we see is that on a good pitch in at least a friendly, non-hostile venue, they're up to snuff defensively (with an asterisk... Sands as a CB in a 4-back line makes me somewhat nervous). But our second-23's attack prowess, like in the Olympics, leaves much to be desired.
     
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  8. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    We did the same in preparation for 1994. It worked. I'm sure that must of us remember that we weren't GOOD, but we were competitive with a pool of college players with a smattering of professional experience, plus a few dual national professional reinforcements. In 1990, before we hired Bora who basically ran the de facto USMNT club side I wouldn't really say that we were yet competitive.
     
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  9. Eldinter

    Eldinter Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There has been way too much praise for Qatar. They let in 3 goals v Panama and were lucky not to have conceded a third v El Salvador. No one they've beaten recently was ranked above 50. We should win this 3 - 1.
     
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  10. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    :eek:
     
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  11. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Or they won the Asian Cup while beating Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Japan and South Korea in early '19 and at this tournament have beaten Honduras and El Salvador (who nearly tied Mexico) and tied Panama in a looney game, they've consistently scored multiple goals in this tournament (3, 4, 2, 3) while we have locked down our games but as predicted by many, replicated the toothless misery of Olympic Qualifying with more of the same (1, 6, 1, 1).

    I think this game is impossible to predict because it's basically:

    Their strength vs our strength (Their attack vs Our D)

    Our weakness vs their weakness (our attack vs their D)

    Additionally Zimmerman is out, and Moore, Robinson and Vines and Sands have logged tons of minutes and are playing on 3 days rest, same with Dike, Busio, Acosta et all. Qatar is on 4 days rest.

    This game lines up to be us trying to hold onto a 1-0 lead against relentless attacks, or a goal fest due to our exhaustion and injuries and their ----- defense. Not sure how it will play out, but easy win seems the least likely of results.
     
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  12. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I think this roster would probably have a FIFA ranking of around 50.
     
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  13. dspence2311

    dspence2311 Member+

    Oct 14, 2007
    Hoppe 3, Qatar 2
     
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  14. Aconti2

    Aconti2 Member

    Apr 10, 2011
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same line up. Let's go!
     
  15. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    was getting worried about BS.

    btw, since when are there so few posts for a usmnt game?
     
  16. la torre

    la torre Member+

    Dec 27, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    us scoring 3 would be pretty shocking to me. if we win i think it's 1-0.
     
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  17. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can’t give the ball away cheaply in our half.

    Same starters as against Jamaica
     
  18. adam tash

    adam tash Member+

    Jul 12, 2013
    Barcelona, Spain
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    greggs system will be lucky to create 3 shots on goal.

    offensive impotency by design is his "game plan."
     
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  19. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    no its a blowout either way... high scoring game at least
     
  20. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hoppe had 3 himself against Jamaica. Please just give your negativity a rest for like 3 hours. Please.
     
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  21. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I think we will win comfortably
     
  22. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My wife is frying bacon just now. BLTs for match day.

    NOTHING BAD COULD HAPPEN ON THIS DAY!

     
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  23. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Worried about how fatigue might hurt us in this one. Definitely could be an issue. We'll see.
     
  24. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No lineup? We're 30 minutes from kickoff.
     
  25. taylor

    taylor Member+

    Jun 9, 2000
    Fav team: FC CARL ZEISS JENA
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    already there since 30 min. same lineup
     

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