Pre-match: USA @ Jamaica WCQ 11/16 5 pm ET

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  1. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Important to stay focused coming off a high-flying win. No Weston McKinnie and especially no Miles Robinson will suck (especially his speed and athleticism), but this is where we show the value in the depth that I think we have. Gotta think Richards slots in next to Zimmerman and Busio slots in for McKinnie. If Pulisic is game fit, start him, if not, start Aaronson again.
     
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  2. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How will Winston and Robinson's absences affect the next match?
     
  3. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Speed and athleticism first and foremost. Both Miles and Weston got that in bunches.

    Second, chemistry with Zimmerman. Richards is going to have to fill in. This is where the depth comes in. Suspensions and injuries are a big part of the gig with the center back position, and it has to be expected at times. But hopefully the chemistry between Zimmerman and Richards develops quickly. This is not a McKenzie game. It cannot be a McKenzie game. Zimmerman has been too much of a rock for us. He has to start. Hes CB2 going forward for me.

    But I think this is a good game for Busio, now. Hope Greg sees it that way.
     
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  4. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Decisions:

    Play Musah back-to-back? Last window, he was lead-footed in the second match.
    Who slots in for McKennie? Acosta has been good on the road for the US. Busio is the better 8.
    Ferreira or Pepi? For the past month, Ferreira has been the better player in Dallas.
    Can Dike be flown in ?
     
  5. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I say do not start Christian. Truth is that JAM are the bottom team of this round. We should be able to get a result there without risking CO in what will likely be poor playing conditions. Keep him on the bench- a powerful tool if needed in the second half (but we really ought to be able to take care of business without).
     
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  6. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also........release the Scally. It is time!
     
  7. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why is this qualifier at 5 PM EST? Will it be pushed back a couple hours later?
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I triple checked that time stamp, I was also confused. Hopefully its adjusted.
     
  9. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because it’s going to be 88 degrees in Kingston. I’m guessing Jamaica would prefer to have the match be even earlier if they could. It’s why we play Mexico in Ohio when it’s cold.
     
  10. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    Should be our starting line-up (but won't)

    ------------DIKE-----Weah-------
    Aaronson----- Busio-------Musah
    ----------------Adams-----------------
    ARob-----Richards---Zim------Yedlin

    (sub Pulisic at half is losing, at 65 if tie or winning)
    (sub Acosta or Arriola for Aaronson or Musah)
    (sub Scally for first minutes at end, also depending on scoreline)

    -- DIKE not here, so I might start Pulisic instead
     
  11. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    Losing Miles against an attack that features Antonio and Bailey frankly sucks.

    We've got the guys who have the quality to get 3, but it still sucks.
     
  12. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dike got abused last time he played Jamaica. They boxed him out well. I know he was carrying that shoulder injury, though.

    Im fine trotting out Pepi again.
     
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  13. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why did he not dress though?
     
  14. golazo68

    golazo68 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 21, 2004
    Brazil
    He was injured. Betting the farm on Pepi makes no strategic sense, even
    if he was red hot. We need options, and options who have been getting reps
    with our core group. WCQ should also be used to prepare for the Big Show.
    On both counts, Dike makes sense here.
     
  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's "Weston"...

    Start
    McKennie --> Gianluca Busio
    M Robinson --> Chris Richards

    Call up
    McKennie --> Luca de la Torre
    M Robinson --> John Brooks

    Never ideal to lose two such important pieces but those are the next guys up.

    Besides that I wouldn't change much, given this was pretty much the best the US has ever looked against Mexico.

    Aside from maybe:
    And I would call in Dike just to have a target forward on the bench.
     
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  16. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Feels pretty bad ass having Busio and Richards as "next man up" guys, Im not gonna lie. Thats what insurance feels like.
     
  17. Master O

    Master O Member+

    Jul 7, 2006
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Derp, I meant Weston.
     
  18. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My XI

    ——————Pepi———————
    Aaronson————————Weah
    ———Acosta——Musah————
    ——————Adams——————
    Jedi———————————Yedlin
    ———Richards——Walker———
    ——————Steffen——————-

    Subs:
    Pulisic
    Busio
    Scally (if available)
    Lletget
    Arriola

    ..
    Notes:
    I don’t know what’s going on with Scally and why he didn’t dress.

    I’m okay bringing Pulisic off the bench early again. Plus, Aaronson rarely has back to back bad games.

    Acosta seems the most up for a big game... he beats out Lletget and Roldan to start.

    I’ve got Busio as a super sub for Musah at the 60th.

    Richards needs to show that he’s Miles level.

    On a yellow: Adams, Yedlin, Pefok, Steffen

    Don’t change it up too much. Go for the jugular.
     
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  19. OWN(yewu)ED

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    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can absolutely see starting Acosta as the enforcer for his athleticism in Weston's spot. I absolutely want it to be Busio, though. I don't want safe, I want step-on-throat levels of offense and speed of play, like today. Busio would do that. Plus, he's gotten much feistier at Venezia as well.
     
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  20. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I wish we had Luca de la Torre on this roster. And I think we messed up by not calling another center forward. Pepi looks cold. Hopefully he heats up again soon. But he may have been anointed too soon.
     
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  21. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It would be an unlikely move, but I think it would be smart to consider Ferreira for McKennie’s spot. Get Pepi and Ferreira on the field together. But you have to call in another center forward then.
     
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  22. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three big decisions.

    Easy one first. I think Richards for Miles is pretty straightforward. McKenzie will be the sub for either guy if needed.

    Second one is how many guys start both matches? For me, I'd start Steffen, Yedlin, Jedi, Zim, Adams, Musah, Weah, Aaronson, & Pepi again.

    Last is who starts for McKennie? Gotta be Busio or Acosta. Berhalter's comments on Busio earlier this week makes me think it is him. Though the lack of physicality could be a red flag vs Jamaica.
     
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  23. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weah can play CF. Just start Arriola (ducks).
     
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  24. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    ---------------------------Ferreira------------
    ------------Aaronson-----------------Weah----
    ------------------Acosta---------Busio-----
    ---------------------------Adams-----
    ----Jedi-----------------------------------------Yedlin---
    ----------------Zimmerman----Richards-------
    --------------------------Turner-----
     
  25. YNWA Rob

    YNWA Rob Member+

    Liverpool FC
    United States
    Nov 12, 2020
    Indiana
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My starting XI at Jamaica:

    GK: Steffen
    D: Yedlin, Richards, Zimmerman, ARobinson
    M: Adams, Busio, Musah
    F: Weah, Pepi, Aaronson.

    No reason why anyone can't start this match in a two-match window with an additional day between the two matches.

    Maurice Edu said on the CBS postgame that he thinks Acosta will start in place of Weston (whereas I have Busio listed). I suppose if we played a 4-2-1-3 and focus on the counterattack that might be the lineup,

    Also maybe Sam Vines gets the nod at left over ARob.

    As far as possibly inviting someone new in for the rest of camp, James Sands would seem the most likely candidate for me as he can play in midfield OR in the back line.
     

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