USA goalkeeper discussion thread - Episode IV: A New Hope

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by OWN(yewu)ED, Jul 9, 2023.

  1. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Crazy to think our starter for the first WC after 40 years was a 21 year old college player.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Goalkeepers on the 60-man provisional roster for the Nations League Final Four:
    [I won't post the link because its in every other thread.]

    Drake Callendar
    Ethan Horvath
    Sean Johnson
    Diego Kochen
    Patrick Schulte
    Gabriel Slonina
    Zack Steffen
    Matt Turner

    I think its pretty good, but just one thought. I'd prefer that Sean Johnson was sent a big thank you card and replaced in the pool at this point.

    Roman Celentano would seem to be the odd-man out. Was at the January camp, and must simply have lost the battle with Schulte and Callendar. Brady is another exclusion, but he's much more likely to be at the U23 camp in March.

    Love the inclusion of Kochen, even if he's unlikely to get the call. Just let him know the extent of our interest.
     
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  3. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we were more settled in terms of the starter I’d be interested in the idea of bringing in Kochen as the third keeper just as a recruiting inducement.
     
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  4. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    Not surewjat Callendar isn't doing in training, but he's definitely the one who stands on his head the most in league games
     
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  5. psnotyours

    psnotyours Member

    Bvb
    United States
    Mar 8, 2023
    Who should we call up for Copa America?
     
  6. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Turner, Horvath, and Steffen most likely at this point in time.
     
  7. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good thing it's not four that get called because we'd find one with a last name starting with I and then instead of a good nickname like MMA we'd have a most unfortunate nickname.
     
  8. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Steffen
    Horvath
    Johnson
    Turner

    … gets us pretty close.
     
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  9. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    What I hope to see, and what we might see in March:

    Nations League: Turner, Horvath, Slonina

    U23 pre-Olympics camp: Schulte, Brady, Kochen

    Kochen's an interesting one. I'm sure we're in talks with him. If he's ready to commit to him, we have several avenues for him. We also have a U20 camp in March. He'd be the unquestioned starter with that group.
     
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  10. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the question with Kochen is how committed is he. If he’s locked in you send him with the U20s where he’s the starter. You bump him up only if you have to as part of trying to recruitment. In that scenario I’d bring him with the full team as the fourth goalie who will train but won’t be on the roster.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Barca might not actually release him to the U23 or U20 camps. There's also that issue.

    Is he committed? Is he going to be released for the youth camps?

    This could be like when Canada put Aidan Morris on their Gold Cup provisional roster.
    It can mean as much as simply letting the player know you're interested.

    It's like Ben Cremaschi being on the provisional roster. He's out after hernia surgery and highly unlikely to be in any shape to be at camp in March. Why is he on there? I don't know, but its probably just to let him know how interested we are.
     
  12. gomichigan24

    gomichigan24 Member+

    Jul 15, 2002
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There’s a decent chance Barcelona would release him for the U20s given he did mostly get released for U17 camps when healthy.
     
  13. Marko72

    Marko72 Member+

    Aug 30, 2005
    New York
    And in some languages, "J" is replaced by an "I." ;)
     
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  14. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    “It seems Thomas Jefferson used the monogram T.I. on his personal belongings instead of T.J. That’s not so unusual, because the handwritten “I” and “J” were oftentimes difficult to distinguish from each other.

    The two letters were virtually interchangeable in 18th century English. For example, an English dictionary published in the 1700s had just one section for both letters.”
     
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  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Also, "J" didn't exist until 1524. It was the same as "I" before that.
     
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  16. KALM

    KALM Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Boston/Providence
    Prior to 1524, the letter J only existed as part of an elaborate booby trap to prevent unworthy heathen adventurers from obtaining the Holy Grail.
     
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  17. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Maybe.

    The U23 camp/match is in Montbéliard, France.
    Not a monstrous trek from Barcelona..................

    [I assume the game is at Sochaux's stadium but could be wrong about that.]

    We don't know where the U20 camp is.

    I'm happy either way. If he's at either camp, I'll be thrilled.
     
  18. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Is Gregg willing to give Steffen a look? Is Horvath gonna refuse a call up? He's only played a few games for Cardff but isn't the out and out no.1 as of yet. Seems risky to accept a call up half a world away simply to ride the bench.
     
  19. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Turner had a strong performance for Forest last night in the FA Cup vs United but considering the loss, he may not be playing for them again.
     
  20. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    stop acting like yall didnt learn the j/i thing from indiana jones like the rest of us :laugh:
     
  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Former U17WC starter Adam Beaudry up a peg in Colorado.
    Possible U20 CONCACAF starter, depending on the status of Kochen.
     
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  22. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Horvath's been starting for over a month now while Turner's been on the bench for over a month. Anyone watching Steffen or Slonina to see how they're doing?
     
  23. TimB4Last

    TimB4Last Member+

    May 5, 2006
    Dystopia
    Apparently we have a third group of call-ups - the U-19s - convening in Morocco. The GKs …

    GOALKEEPERS (3):

    Gavin Beavers (Real Salt Lake; Henderson, Nev.),

    Julian Eyestone (Duke University; Dallas, Texas),

    Diego Kochen (Barcelona/ESP; Miramar, Fla.)
     
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  24. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    By the way, Julian Eyestone has left Duke. As far as we know, he's not signing a homegrown deal with Dallas.
    There are rumors out there that he's training with Brentford, but we've yet to see or hear evidence of that.

    Even though he just finished his first season at Duke, he's still only 17. Can't move to Europe yet.
     
  25. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Steffen has been getting abused. Definitely not one of the better keepers, thus far.
     

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