US Job Growth Up

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  1. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    US Job Growth Up: Analysts Still Wary
     
  2. Yankee_Blue

    Yankee_Blue New Member

    Aug 28, 2001
    New Orleans area
    Mostly decent numbers...
     
  3. servotron

    servotron New Member

    Mar 4, 2004
    St Paul, MN
    Hah, it's probably all campaign jobs!
     
  4. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
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    It appears to be in part due to hurricane-related construction jobs, but not all. They're good numbers, unless you have a variable-rate mortgage or credit card.
     
  5. Quaker

    Quaker Member+

    FC Dallas
    Apr 19, 2000
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    So could we actually break even in the payroll survey over Bush's four years? (The household survey already shows gains, I believe.) What's the current number? I know it's not the "1.6 million jobs lost" the Kerry campaign was still touting many months after that figure was accurate.
     
  6. USAsoccer

    USAsoccer Member

    Jul 15, 1999
    Tampa, Florida
    As of last month, the number of total jobs lost during the Bush Administration was between 600 and 800 thousand, depending upon the source.

    Given these numbers (an additional 450,000 jobs added), the net loss is between 150 and 350,000, with three more months left (Nov, Dec, and Jan).

    It seems pretty certain, that unlike Hoover, President Bush will actually have a net gain by the end of his 1st term.

    So Mr. Hoover can now rest quietly as the last President to lose jobs during his term....

    P.S. In light of the things, Bush inheriting a recession, stock market bubble, 9/11, two wars....the fact that this economy is this good is A-m-a-z-i-n-g and a testament to his tax policy!
     
  7. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
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    Which he didn't.
    Which has little to nothing to do with job creation / loss except possibly on Wall Street itself, and even that's debatable.
    Which by all econometric accounts had zero effect outside of downtown Manhattan and the bloated government-subsidized airline industry.
    One of which was totally elective, the other of which was partially botched, and neither of which required any sacrifice whatsoever from the people left at home.
    Man, way to lower the bar. We broke even! U! S! A! U! S! A!
    Way to prove cause and effect here. Reagan cut taxes --> economy improves. Clinton raised taxes --> economy improves more, longer, faster. Bush's tax cuts were a redistribution of tax policy; their economic stimulus powers are highly specious to anyone who doesn't write for the WSJ editorials page.
     
  8. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
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    United States
    Aren't wars supposed to stimulate an economy, not deter it?
     
  9. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    No.
     
  10. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
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    Manchester United FC
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    Well that's another one of my wild-eyed theories that's been debunked...
     
  11. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

    Apr 21, 2001
    Chicago
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    Wars increase spending, and in the right economic conditions spending will help to stimulate the economy. Not the case this time.
     
  12. USAsoccer

    USAsoccer Member

    Jul 15, 1999
    Tampa, Florida
    :rolleyes:


    You liberals will never...ever...ever GET IT! Simply proving that it IS possible to be wrong about everything in one post!

    You guys would figure that after losing ANOTHER election, you would stop with trying to re-write history with fiction for political purposes....

    Unlucky for you that a majority of us do GET IT!
     
  13. USAsoccer

    USAsoccer Member

    Jul 15, 1999
    Tampa, Florida
    Square miles of
    counties won


    Bush 2.51 million

    Kerry 511,700

    Population (2003) of
    counties won


    Bush 150,9 million

    Kerry 103.6 million
     
  14. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    :confused: What is the point in posting this?
     
  15. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    Unintentional humor is the best kind.

    Say, why did we go into Iraq again?
     
  16. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    When you have a war, energy and effort goes into making things that get blown up. You also have a bunch of young, strong men that are normally part of the economy sent far away to blow things up. Neither of these things are good for an economy.

    The myth is that World War II ended the Great Depression. It wasn't the war that did it, but certain side effects, such as curtailing the limits on oil mining ("proration"). Usually wars are disasterous, even if you don't get your territory blown up. Look at what happened to England after the two world wars. Vietnam wasn't too great for us either.
     
  17. spejic

    spejic Cautionary example

    Mar 1, 1999
    San Rafael, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Don't you know? We were always at war with Oceania.
     
  18. nicephoras

    nicephoras A very stable genius

    Fucklechester Rangers
    Jul 22, 2001
    Eastern Seaboard of Yo! Semite
    True, but they're unarmed like the Swedes.
     
  19. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
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    Which is actually the theory I agree with. If you want another example, have a look at Iraq War I.

    Dammit I was trying to get the other guy to answer--that would have been more fun.
     
  20. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
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    Eastasia rules!!!
     
  21. Achtung

    Achtung Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    Chicago
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    Manchester United FC
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    United States
    It makes him more correct than the rest of us. If BigSoccer allowed it, that post would actually be an ideal sig. It means you couldn't really argue anything he posted, ever.
     
  22. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    I'll file this under "may as well lay back and enjoy it."
     
  23. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    WTF? Is this one acre, one vote?
     
  24. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    We're talking about economic policy. You're just about the only person who would argue that Bush won on economics. He won because people like you get a worked up about gays.

    p.s. We won the last election

    p.s.s. we won the election before that

    p.s.s.s. we won the election before that.
     
  25. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    Nice post.

    I'm surpised this isn't self-evident, but it appears many people, contrary to any logic, believe that war is economically beneficial.
     

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