It is an interesting dynamic, that is for sure. I think you would need to prepare both goalkeepers for that eventuality. There are merits to it either way I think. I wouldnt be clamoring for it by any means or thinking it was a tactical blunder one way or another. Maybe at minute 118, youve used four guys and are resigned to PKs, it could be an option? Thats the kind of stuff I think of for #3 goalkeeper. No he never got a national team appearance, just like Jon Busch, another short guy who frankly was a killer PK and shot stopper. Just no love for short guys.
I've seen coaches try to swap goalies in anticipation of a shootout and then the guy thrown in cold gives up a goal and that's that. So much for the shootout. I also once saw a coach send in a substitute PK specialist goalie with a single goal lead and just a few minutes left, just in case they give one up. And they did, and they lost the shootout anyway. I'm sure it has been done successfully somewhere, but I've only run across a small number of examples where it has been tried and none of them worked out. Plus, you really wanna show such an astounding lack of trust in your #1? How about the guys who consider themselves penalty specialists work at their games and get better?
Yep. Positioning and anticipation are probably 80% of the job, with shot stopping, leadership, and distribution filling out the other 20% When a keeper has a great game making tons of saves like Keller, Howard, Friedel, etc. did many times for the US, they are usually also having even better games in positioning and anticipation.
I honestly wonder top MLS keepers like Frei or Melia might have done had they moved to a top 5 league or even say Belgium or Turkey. WOuld they have adapted?
Not sure what you mean by adapted? Are you wondering if they would have gotten better by playing overseas? If that is the question its a bit chicken and egg. Got to be good enough in the first place to get a shot. Now IF they had shots at going overseas and chose not to then that is certainly their right but also then can't ever bitch about not getting much attention from the NT. Fact is they would face tougher shot makers overseas than they do in MLS. Now certainly the flip side is also true, They would have had better supporting defenders in front of them. There are two advantages to playing overseas: 1. Better training and coaching 2. Better competition. BUT the key he is "playing" overseas. Look at Horvath. Guy just not getting any chances. Plays very well when he does but mostly rides the pine. From what little we have seen of him he looks to be our best #2. But its a bit of guesswork because he rarely plays. But a team like Brugge doesn't keep him around just because. Just like Man City doesn't have Steffen on their bench just because. They see these guys in trainning every day so they know way more than what anybody else does. So when it comes to choosing callups for the NT how much does Berhalter factor that in when making his decisions? He and his scouts can go see everybody else actually playing. They get very few chances to actually see Steffen or Horvath.
We have so many good domestic keepers that I always wonder why MLS clubs use a foreign slot on them. Just as an example, Jimmy Maurer of FC Dallas. They picked him up off the New York Cosmos scrap heap. He led MLS in GAA, and has been pretty darn awesome this season. Better than Andre Blake. Better than Matt Turner. Better than Melia or Frei by a distance. With keepers you never know. Its all about getting that starting opportunity. A young keeper can go to Europe and just stall on the bench somewhere. Kinda like what's happening to Ethan Horvath right now.
Young keepers just stall on the bench in MLS all the time.... Seitz, Perk, Lambo, Macmath, Cropper, Edward's, etc Many American goalkeepers have gone abroad at young ages and become one of our top GKers....Keller, Freidel, Hannigan, Sommer, Howard, Guzan, Steffen. In fact, an MLS GK has never started a WC game for us. A lot more failures in MLS than abroad.
Meola was an NCAA player in his first WC and the league hadn't started in his second. The only GKers whk have played in the WC since the league started are Kelller, Freidel, and Howard. They were all playing abroad when they played in the WC.
Ok but the fact remains. Meola started WC matches for the US. Meola played in MLS. Just not in MLS before WC.
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Both technically accurate. I thought of writing it as we have only played euro based GKers since 1998 (all WCs since MLS has been in existence). Meola's play in WCQ in 1989 is one of the most amazing USMNT performance (not necessarily best). The same can't be said of his 1990 WC performances.
what I mean is whether folks would wager if either Melia or Frei or even longterm stays Johnson/Hamid might have done well in a top 5 or midtier league? Because the first two def seem to be up there with a guy like Robles or Rimando as top keepers of the decade in MLS.
The biggest downside takeaways from the Euro camp were: 1) Chris Richards and Owen Otasowie didn't step up at center back, for whatever reason, and RIchards looked a little physically weak in his 10 minutes. 2) Ethan Horvath didn't get a minute, thereby continuing our uncertainty at GK beyond Steffen.
Are any of the lesser known European keepers a possibility? Josh Cohen starts for Israeli power Maccabi Haifa. He was "only" a USL keeper before moving, but he was 26 and the second team all USL. I assume Maxime Crepeau beat him, and he was a top keeper in MLS the next year.
I think at this point its Steffen then Horvath with a couple very close or right with him in Turner and Frei/Guzan
yup.......sure does. Id love to know the mental ju jutsu that was used in the GK callups. I mean, Hamid vs Sean Johnson is a wash, either one is hopeless but id still like to know "why". And Marcinkowski is actually starting and doing well with his club. Strange omission IMO.
Johnson has a CCL game a few days later; because none of the players still in CCL were called in, it's been assumed that was a block. I don't really get calling in Dos Santos and not Marcinkowski. I don't think JT has National Team upside because his shot stopping is below standard compared to players like Steffen, Turner or Horvath, but for the Olympics? Unless they've already secured an overage player, it's tough to see why he isn't there.