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Discussion in 'Elections' started by Neo¹, Nov 7, 2004.
Im not Joking.
No, but the validity of this "data" is a joke. A while back the Economist claimed it as a hoax. The only other publication to lend back to this data was The St. Petersburg Times. And if you'll notice in their article on the matter http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/20/Opinion/Does_IQ_matter_in_pol.shtml
they picked it up from the Economist.
So in short, this is a load of crap that's long known to be a hoax, and you're a fool for buying into it.
Well this certainly explains those faulty exit polls! All those people thought they had voted for Kerry but were so dumb they voted for Bush by accident!
I can't believe someone with such a high IQ was fooled by this hoax. I'm not joking.
I just wanted to post the pic.
If anyone is offended feel free to give me a negative rep.
Those red state numbers are WAY too high.
SAT & IQ by state--actual data:
And decidely more RED states are "smarter."
We desperately need an emoticon for "smacks palm against head".
A. Nearly all IQ data are stated as unproven (all the top ones, oddly enough) and
B. Using SAT scores is abominably stupid, since the rate of students taking the SAT is not the same per state. Thus, since almost everyone in Connecticut takes the SATs, you get more stupid people taking it than you would in, say Alabama, where only the 7 people per year allowed to go to college take it.
Exactly. Look at the percentages of HS who took the SAT. Iowa - 5% Conn - 79% -- i think that's very telling.
Also, did you see where the home state of our president ranked in your list. 7th from the BOTTOM! with an average IQ of 108.
Using SAT scores is pretty stupid for another reason. Out West, the ACT test is standard, so only kids going to eastern schools take the SAT, and the obviously disincludes all the kids going to Southeast State U.
Dubious data. The fact that Mississippi is in the top half of any intelligence survey should've been a tip off. Mississippi isn't known as the "50th state" for nothing.
Another "smart state/dumb state" survey:
These are the findings of the Education State Rankings, a survey by Morgan Quitno Press of hundreds of public school systems in all 50 states. States were graded on a variety of factors based on how they compare to the national average. These included such positive attributes as per-pupil expenditures, public high school graduation rates, average class size, student reading and math proficiency, and pupil-teacher ratios. States received negative points for high drop-out rates and physical violence.
How does YOUR state rank?
4. New Jersey
6. New York
14. New Hampshire
19. North Dakota
22. South Dakota
23. Rhode Island
25. North Carolina
32. South Carolina
33. Texas and West Virginia (tie)
50. New Mexico
I don't know which "West" you live in, but that's not true.
The ACT is used prevalently in the Midwest, not the West. Also, nearly everyone takes the SATs as well as the ACT. Everyone at my school did (in the Midwest).
The ACTs are utilized far more in the midwest than anywhere else. The SATs are nationwide. The link provided was a joke because, as was pointed out earlier, the % of high school graduates taking the test varied greatly.
He was born in and went to school in Connecticut, so he is from a state with a seemingly average set of numbers.
We use the ACT in Michigan. Only those students planning to go to school out of state take the SAT, generally. I might add that I got a 33 on the ACT when I took it.
If this thread was a state, it would rank 51st.
I only took the ACT.
Ohio State requires at least one, ACT or SAT
Yes, I do know that. But most people associate him with that down home cowboy texan thing -- and he seems to fit better in that atmosphere as well.
If the republicans are the ones with the low IQ, how come it is the democrats who are too stupid to figure out how to use a ballot?
Yup. I took the ACT, but knew nothing about it. I figured it was just another test out there. (Although man was that science section stoopid.) I took the SATs twice, and actually cared. I went to the ACT, got the results, stuck them in a drawer, and didn't look at them again until I started talking to Ohio State people.
That's all we need - a degree/test score smack thread in the Politics Forum.
Here's one reason for the posted IQ numbers
But I warn the Aussies not to gloat too much, look here