U20 callup data now online and viewable

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Jun 23, 2016.

  1. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #1 Dave Marino-Nachison, Jun 23, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2016
    Wow, Google's import from Excel to Docs worked incredibly well!

    So, for your viewing pleasure, I've uploaded and made viewable my U20 callup tracker, which catalogs every U20 callup I have been able to find all the way back to the 1981 cycle (there are two previous cycles for which I have no information).

    It's here:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lfMvt087D65kHEJtitNuODh4dPgpKCQTi6Ae9VJ2c0g/edit?usp=sharing

    What I track on each tab:

    • Name
    • Birth year
    • GK (this is the only position I broke out)
    • WCExc (this is where I note World Cup-rostered players who received zero U20 callups -- though, as it has been noted, some of the older data is a bit hinky because, for a while, the U20 cycle wasn't based on calendar year births)
    • WC (made a World Cup roster)
    • WCQ (played in a qualifier)
    • Cap (duh)
    • Pro (went pro)
    • ProDC (was a pro during the U20 cycle)
    • PrevC (was called in to a previous U20 cycle)
    • Up (playing "up")

    Then I track all known callup opportunities (the naming convention is to abbreviate the location and the month, so DalMar is Dallas/March) keeping players on the list if they were called up but didn't make it and/or were replaced for whatever reason. I total everything that can be ... totaled, including how many callups each player got and how many guys are called in each cycle.

    Some people have suggested other trackable categories. I'm not going to add any more myself most likely, but if you have a good idea and are serious about it I'd consider either adding your work or giving you access to the file. (It was a lot of work, so breaking it would be bad. Put simply, breaking = bad.)

    I don't pretend that this is 100% complete or correct, and would appreciate corrections and fixes. (One reason for this is I just don't check it all that much.) Sources include U.S. Soccer, FIFA, CONCACAF and various press reports, including Soccer America, plus the research of some BigSoccer posters. If you plan to use it in some public way, some kind of polite credit, whether to me or the collective intelligence of this community, seems appropriate.

    Questions, comments, etc, let me know.
     
  2. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Have you ever kissed a girl? Who has an excel spreadsheet of US Soccer Tracking U20 call ups since 1981?
    I know one person who does. Seriously thanks for the info. I once bragged to a date that I tracked the number of years the US World Cup roster had played college soccer. Suffice it to say I am single.
     
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  3. chrome_vapors

    chrome_vapors Member+

    Oct 15, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The shared obsession and meaningful social interaction can coexist if one chooses. It takes discipline and want to, but the social can be accommodated.

    Thanks Dave ;)
     
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  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Great work Dave! I don't care what SUDano says; I bet the ladies are really impressed by this!
     
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  5. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    #5 Dave Marino-Nachison, Jun 26, 2016
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2016
    @SUDano's question is a reasonable one. And I'm happy to say I'm to marry a lovely young lady in August.
     
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  6. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Congratulations!!!
     
  7. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    You obviously have not told her about your spreadsheet. ;)
     
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  8. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    And neither will you, if you know what's good for you. (Or, more to the point, for me.)
     
  9. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Marco Farfan 13 Pro Appearances 0 Callups
     
  10. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The key is to pick an un-Googleable user name.
     
  11. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Of the 106 guys called up during the 2011 (91/92) cycle, I have the following as possible non-pros, as in they never signed a contract at any outdoor professional level. Anyone know more about these guys?

    Altamirano Jose
    Chavez Victor
    Foxhoven Zack
    Gonzalez Jesus
    Gonzalez Ruben
    Hines-Ike Ian
    Mendrano Williams Ronald
    Murphy Colin
    Palodichuk Nick
    Saavedra Gerardo
    Sarle Dominick
    Schoenle Eric​
     
  12. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Ruben Gonzalez just sign with Rio Grande Valley, Houston's USL team?
     
  13. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's Ruben Luna.
     
  14. gunnerfan7

    gunnerfan7 Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 22, 2012
    Santa Cruz, California
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ah. I saw Ruben and jumped at the name. Must be because I'm so hungry right now...

    (Yes, I know, it's a "Reuben" sandwich!)
     
  15. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Man..........Nick Palodichuk. I thought he had some potential. Multiple ankle surgeries, right? If my memory serves me correctly he had ankle surgery during both his freshman and sophomore years at Duke. Played a little in the PDL, but without impact.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholas-palodichuk-04257988
     
  16. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Agreed. Watched him play at Duke on the same team as Wenger (but younger) and thought he was at least as good. And Wenger was dominant at the time.
     
  17. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    BTW, is Jesus Gonzalez the same guy with a DOB of Feb 26, 1992? If so, he's been bouncing around the lower divisions of Mexico, sometimes referred to as Alexandre Gonzalez.

    http://ligamx.net/cancha/jugador/62384
     
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  18. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    I think that's him based on this roster and YA thread:

    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/201...-rongen-names-20-players-to-dallas-cup-roster

    http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/alexandre-gonzalez-at-necaxa.1944742/

    http://www.sjearthquakes.com/post/2013/04/04/signing-bay-area-native-gonzalez-inks-deal
     
  19. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Of the guys who remain, the only other one I think signed a pro contract is Colin Murphyw, ho appears to have played at Boston College and for New Zealand before joining the NASL Strikers, so I'll add him to the pro list. Any updates, let me know.

    Altamirano Jose
    Chavez Victor
    Foxhoven Zack
    Gonzalez Ruben
    Hines-Ike Ian
    Mendrano Williams Ronald
    Palodichuk Nick
    Saavedra Gerardo
    Sarle Dominick
    Schoenle Eric​
     
  20. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here's a messy list of possible non-pros from the 2009 (89/90) cycle. Some of these guys were playing up and showed up again the next time around, unless of course my records are messed up:

    Altamirano Jose
    Amick Stuart
    Blaise Franklin
    Brown Cameron
    Cortez Victor
    Duble Sean
    Giallombardo Andrew
    Gonzales Christian
    Gross Warren
    Hernandez Josh
    Kalis Ian
    Kelly Danny
    Lara Wilfrido
    Lara Frank
    Markheim Derek
    Martucci Michele
    Mittoo Andre
    Rodney Akheel
    Saavedra Gerardo
    Shupp James
    Sigler Pat
    Sinclair Hasani
    Taylor Chris
    Torres Guillermo
    Torres Jose
    Uy Matthew
    Wenzel Daniel
    Wiet Matt
    Torres, above, is not the MNT's Memo, who is an '87 and didn't play U20 ball.
     
  21. Balerion

    Balerion Member+

    Aug 5, 2006
    Roslindale, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matt Wiet ended up signing for the Crew and playing on loan for the Dayton Dutch Lions when they were in USL Pro.

    Guillermo Torres made a few appearances in the Segunda Division in Mexico.

    http://www.ligamx.net/cancha/jugador/78919
     
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  22. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Cameron Brown, who was a well-regarded prospect who had some serious injury issues, appears to have played pro indoor (which I'm not counting for this purpose).
     
  23. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    The 95/96 group has an interesting post-U20 history so far. You've got two guys with WCQ appearances already; one who didn't make the Finals squad who is now collecting EPL starts, and of course the Big Asterisk, a guy not in the pool who has already scored in a World Cup... and I haven't even mentioned several of the highest-profile guys in the group, to say nothing of the '97s who bulled their way in.
     
  24. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    Here are the 2007 cycle players (87/88) I haven't yet found pro careers for.

    Banghart Kris
    Banks Trevor
    Brown Cameron
    Bumpas Brandyn
    Cardenas Nick
    Dworsky Bill
    Folk Greg
    Hidalgo Rodrigo
    Kelly Danny
    Koss William
    Lopez Daniel
    Rein Marcus
    Sandbo Steven
    Skverer Nicholas
    Tutich Matthew
    Van den Beld Mitchell​
     
  25. Dave Marino-Nachison

    Jun 9, 1999
    And 2005 (85/86):

    Chevannes Adrian
    Hall Will
    Kartunen Andrew
    Long Kevin
    Owens Brandon
    Rogers Robby
    Rueckner Bryant
    Sandbo Steven
    Schilling Karl
    Soroka Ryan
    Yeagle Darren​
     

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