U16 BNT to Aegan Cup, 1/19-1/24

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  1. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USA U16s will play Turkey, Norway, and Romania in the group stage of the Aegan Cup in Turkey. First match for the US is January 19th vs Romania. Last year the US won this tournament with our present U17s, however, this tournament is made up of '99s.

    Carlos Avilez, FC Dallas Academy
    Eric Lopez, LA Galaxy
    Roger Batse, Capitol Area Rail Hawks Ac.
    Eves McKay, Real Salt Lake Academy
    Kyle Gruno, Leicester City
    Daniel Jones, New England Revolution Ac.
    Matthew Real, Philadelphia Union Ac.
    Raul Aguilera Jr., Orlando City SC Academy
    Jose Alfaro Jr., Monarcas Morelia
    JosevCarranza, DC United Academy
    Marty Raygoza, FC Golden State Academy
    Nicholas Taitague, Richmond United Academy
    Juan Torres, Georgia United Academy
    Lucas Del Rosario, Capitol Area Rail Hawks Ac.
    Jonathan Gonzalez, CF Monterrey
    Leo Marquez, Leon FC
    Justin Rennicks, New England Revolution Ac.
    Adolfo Trujillo, De Anza Force Academy
    http://www.tff.org/default.aspx?pageID=1305
     
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  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No Hanif Wright?
     
  3. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Maybe he's on a training stint with Schalke now.
     
  4. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2015/01/12/13/45/150112-u16bnt-aegean-cup-in-turkey

    Official roster announcement is here. Seeing Shaun Tsakiris and Luchi Gonzalez in charge makes me happy, especially since they didn't seem to make homer roster picks. On the other hand, seeing 0 kids selected from non-DA US clubs makes me sad (but isn't unexpected).

    By the looks of things, there are only 6 non-Hispanic players in this squad, and 5 of those 6 are defenders.
     
  5. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing wrong with that
     
  6. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not the best way to tell him he was there for the pass but okay.
     
  7. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    [​IMG] U.S. Soccer YNT @ussoccer_ynt · 7h 7 hours ago
    U-16 #USBNT training for Aegean Cup in Turkey! USA faces Romania on Mon.
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  9. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
  10. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Still haven't found the starting lineup for the Romania game, but some of the players' tweets are providing some additional info. For example, Jose Alfaro, Jr. got one of the assists.


    [​IMG] Tute @Tute_36 · 31m 31 minutes ago
    Its always an honor to represent my country [​IMG] #1N1T

    [​IMG]

    Can anyone identify the players?
     
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  11. Peretz48

    Peretz48 Member+

    Nov 9, 2003
    Los Angeles
    Sorry, meant to say Jose Carranza got an assist:

    jose c‏@JCarranza99 2h2 hours ago
    beat Romania 2-0, happy to get an assist, now preparing for our match vs. Norway tomorrow[​IMG]
     
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  12. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    USA Romania highlights


    USA lost 2-0 to Norway today.
     
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  13. Namdynamo

    Namdynamo Member+

    Jan 1, 2005
  14. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Carlos Avilez, FC Dallas Academy
    1-Eric Lopez, LA Galaxy
    Roger Batse, Capitol Area Rail Hawks Ac.
    4-Eves McKay, Real Salt Lake Academy
    Kyle Gruno, Leicester City
    Daniel Jones, New England Revolution Ac.
    Matthew Real, Philadelphia Union Ac.
    Raul Aguilera Jr., Orlando City SC Academy
    Jose Alfaro Jr., Monarcas Morelia
    10-Jose Carranza, DC United Academy
    Marty Raygoza, FC Golden State Academy
    Nicholas Taitague, Richmond United Academy
    6-Juan Torres, Georgia United Academy
    9-Lucas Del Rosario, Capitol Area Rail Hawks Ac.
    13-Jonathan Gonzalez, CF Monterrey
    Leo Marquez, Leon FC
    7-Justin Rennicks, New England Revolution Ac.
    11-Adolfo Trujillo, De Anza Force Academy
     
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  15. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
     
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  16. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    Birthdates
    Jan - 5
    Feb - 3
    Mar - 3
    Apr - 3
    May - 0
    Jun - 0
    Jul - 2
    Aug - 1
    Sep - 1
    Oct - 0
    Nov - 0
    Dec - 0

    If this is what we continue to do at the U16 level, imagine how maturity-based our younger age selections must be.
     
  17. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If every other country wasn't doing this I'd call this a problem but you can just go through the rosters of this tournament and see that all rosters are skewed this way. I don't think the remedy is changing player selection. The remedy is to have proper infrastructure to develop the players that have missed out on selection.
     
  18. Hararea

    Hararea Member+

    Jan 21, 2005
    I don't see "other countries make the same mistake" as a valid excuse. We spend lots of money scouting and training these early maturing children and then we

    (1) complain when they get overtaken
    and
    (2) under-fund national team programs at older, more appropriate ages
     
  19. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Players being overtaken is the main part of developmental scouting. The issue I have is we have no institutional method to view this common phenomena and quickly adjust accordingly. There is no way Conor Donovan should be the top CB for his age and no way Thomas McCabe is this country's second best DM for 17 yr olds in the US. We have very limited methods to see players weekly and promote and demote players. We have too much selection intertia going on.
     
  20. didi11

    didi11 Member

    Dec 13, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Please watch the turnover by US CB (#16?) that resulted in the goal by Turkey. To me, that kind of player should never be selected by national team.

    I know he is tall, probably very fast too. But he has no soccer brain. He doesn't understand that the very basic principle of soccer is deception. His pass is so obvious. He panicked too under pressure, that should disqualify him as a CB right there.

    In short, he is lacking the critical quality to be a top soccer player, yet he plays for US youth national team. US doesn't know how to select players, period.

    It's not he made a mistake. Young players can make and will make many mistakes.

    It's how he made the mistake that tells me that US coaches and scouts are completely clueless on how to select players
     
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  21. USFutbol119

    USFutbol119 New Member

    Jan 20, 2015
    Club:
    --other--
    # 16 is Kyle Gruno of Leicester City. From the US, but has played in Europe for more than 2 years.
     
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  22. Werdman89

    Werdman89 Member+

    May 27, 2008
    Boston, MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lost to Turkey 1-0, Romania beats Norway 2-0.
     
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  23. SUDano

    SUDano Member+

    Jan 18, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Don't these two statements contradict each other. In theory wouldn't even the correct top young player selection make mistakes like this?
     
  24. didi11

    didi11 Member

    Dec 13, 2013
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    A real soccer player makes mistakes such as bad control of the ball, miss on his pass.

    He just made one bad pass. So how is that different? The major difference is: he passed the ball without any deception and looked at his target all the way. That is the sign of a bad player. A top player would not do that. Even worse, he panicked when he's pressed. That is another bad sign.
     
  25. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Not the best results. Are these the best 99's?
     

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