U.S. U-20s vs. Ukraine [R]

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by maverick, Aug 27, 2002.

  1. maverick

    maverick New Member

    Mar 7, 1999
    San Diego, CA
  2. beineke

    beineke New Member

    Sep 13, 2000
    Nice coverage ... they even list the tie-breakers. To make a long story short, the US advances unless they lose by two goals or more.
  3. BWMcTell

    BWMcTell New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Is there another way to find the result besides waiting for soccer365 to post it?
  4. profiled

    profiled Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 7, 2000
    slightly north of a mile high
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    When is the game supposed to take place?
  5. Sammys

    Sammys New Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    U20's vs. Ukraine

    The game is at 10pm in Spain. 4pm ET.
  6. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Final (R)

    USA wins again!

    5. Estados Unidos: Ford, Stone, Simo, Harvey, Klaas, Lancos, Cameron, Palomares, Ambersley, Magee y Capano.

    2. Ucrania: Shyryayev, Vlayev, Hybanyuk, Petrivskyy, Karamushka, Kryvosheyenko (Oberenko, m.51), Nesin, Gorbkov, Khanas, Radevych y Vorobey.

    1-0, m.2: Magee;
    2-0, m.4: Capano;
    2-1, m.37: Vorobey;
    3-1, m.56: Magee;
    4-1, m.67: Magee;
    4-2, m.68: Karamushka;
    5-2, m.80: Magee, de penalti.


    Uruguay 3- Costa Rica 0 in the earlier game.
  7. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    A 4-pack sure as hell ought to help Magee's chances of making the qualifying 18, though Rongen may want him to be with a team before then.
  8. BWMcTell

    BWMcTell New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    Can someone fill me in as to what kind of tournament this is exactly?
  9. BWMcTell

    BWMcTell New Member

    Jul 2, 2002
    To be more specific, how does qualifying work? Is it by invitation? What are the requirements for team ages? Since the Italian team was older, that is why I am asking. Things like that. Thanks.
  10. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Apparently, it's a U-20 tournament, but the Italians brought their current best U-20s while we brought what was really a U-19 team in preparation for next year's U-20 championship. Costa Rica and Ukraine did the same as us.
  11. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Is he in college?
  12. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    DC United
    Are these A-sides (or close to it) or B-sides competing?

  13. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    FWIW, I looked up the Italy line-ups for a couple of their U21 European Championship matches (played back in May/June) and no one from that team was in the squad the US defeated.
  14. Here is a little bit more info on the Italian side:

  15. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer New Member

    Sep 3, 1999
    U21 is completely different. That's what Europeans refer to as U23(Olympic tournament age) for some reason.

    This is the U20 age level.
  16. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    I am a bit confused: what do you mean by completely different? The guys who participated in this year's U21 Euros were all under 21, right?

    I figured that since there's only a year difference between U20 and U21, there would probably be some overlap between the two teams.
  17. Bigdog

    Bigdog New Member

    Oct 10, 2000
    Gone Fishin'
  18. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    No, the guys that competed in the Euro U21 Championships last May were 79s and later. That means they were as old as 23. There is no overlap between the teams in the A'lcudia tournament and the recent Euro U-21 finals. They are actually two levels apart (and 4 years apart).

    There will be another Euro U-21 Championship in a couple years that will determine the teams will qualify for the Athens Olympics. The Euro teams like Italy are still building their future U-21 teams, so the are trying out some 82s in Spain.

    However, the players on European teams born in 1983 and later would have been eligible for the recent U-19 UEFA Championships won by Spain 1-0 over Germany late last month. Spain, Germany, Slovakia and ROI all qualified for the finals at the UAE. Many of the players from the winning U-19 Spanish team refused to leave their clubs to play in the L'Alcudia tournament this week.

    The teams participating at L'Alcudia are invited to play by the organizers like all youth tournaments except for the FIFA and confederation championships. FIFA does rate this tournament #2 behind Toulon at the U-20 level.

    Here is the breakdown of tournaments in Europe:

    UEFA Championships 2002:
    UEFA U-21 (born 1979 and later) played in May.

    UEFA U-19 (born 1983 and later) played last month with Spain defeating Germany. It's used as qualifier for the FIFA U-20 finals in UAE next year.

    UEFA U-17 (born 1985 and later) this was played earlier this year with Switzerland defeating France in final.

    UEFA Championships in 2003:
    U-19 (will be born 1984 and later) will be played in 2003.

    U-17 (born 1986 and later) will be played in 2003 and winner and runner-up qualify for FIFA U-17 Championships in Finland in Aug 2003.

    UEFA Championships in 2004:
    U-21 (born 1981 and later) winner/runner up qualify for Athens Olympics. The qualifiers will start in 2003.

    U-19 (born 1985 and later) winner/runner-up/3rd/4th place will qualify for FIFA 2005 U-20 Championships.

    U-17 (born 1987 and later):
  19. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    USSF game report


    USA - 18-Ford Williams; 4-Chefik Simo (14-Chad Marshall, 41), 6-Jordan Harvey, 12-Chris Lancos, 8-C.J. Klaas (15-David Johnson, 41); 21-Craig Capano, 2-Jordan Stone, 17-Raul Palomares (captain), 19-Mike Ambersley, 20-Mike Magee, 16-Knox Cameron.
    Subs not used: 1-Steve Cronin, 3-Justin Mapp, 5-Ryan Cochrane, 7-Ed Johnson, 10-Ned Grabavoy, 11-Ricardo Clark, 13-Devin Barclay.

    Hmm, I was surprised to see Raul Palomares as the captain. Magee probably made the qualifying roster with this 4 goal performance. Afterall, one of the main weaknesses of the team has been finishing. Also note that Fernando Clavijo is with team as an assistant coach. Nice write-up by the USSF.
  20. type_32

    type_32 New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    Bizarre. Thanks for the info.
  21. odg78

    odg78 Member

    Feb 14, 2001
    North Carolina

    The best part of the article was this little tidbit about the ages of the other teams.

    The five other teams brought players (born in 1928) that will be too old for next year’s U-20 world championship

    If they're that old how did we lose to Brasil?
  22. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    it's still brasil

  23. maverick

    maverick New Member

    Mar 7, 1999
    San Diego, CA
    Thanks for the discussion and links, guys!

    Also, can anyone summarize the info in the Italian link for those of us who only studied Latin... ;)
  24. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Can anyone cite a U.S. international match, full or youth team, where a player scored four goals?

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