So far, here's the roster Sigi Schmid has put together for the camp in Florida. Freddy Adu -- DC United Arturo Alvarez -- San Jose Michael Bradley -- MetroStars Craig Capano -- Chicago Jay Denny -- Stoke City Guillermo Gonzalez -- Galaxy Danny Szetela -- Columbus Quentin Westberg -- Estac Troyes
Where is Gaven if he's not on this or on the Full Nationals for wednesday?Also when did Bradley get healthy?
Gaven is obviously in the USMNT camp but I don't see why he doesn't join the U-20 camp thursday. Also, I don't see why Spector doesn't also join the U-20 camp after the USMNT camp considering ManUtd aren't gonna be using him over the weekend.
Are any college kids called in for this camp? I know most of the college kids will be in the NCAA Tournament, but some of them will have a first round bye and have this weekend off.
Looks like they will call in guys who have a bye first round. http://www.ussoccer.com/news/fullstory.sps?inewsid=125944
Gaven is not on the USMNT roster according to the leaked reports. Spector is and could possibly stay. It will be his easiest chance to play with this crew and get familiar with their system.
Gaven will be on the field wednesday night...that roster was incomplete. It would be logical for Gaven and Spector to join up with the U-20's thursday. Logic doesn't always prevail with US Soccer though.
Teams with first rounds byes in the NCAA Tournament Wake Forest Indiana Maryland Virginia Notre Dame UCLA Southern Methodist UNC-Greensboro UC Santa Barbara Penn State St. John's Old Dominion New Mexico Creighton Boston College Va. Commonwealth
He's talking about the Unofficial roster leaked by Mahoney. Technically, you are correct, and a lot of Bigsoccer folks have pieced together info (from the Revs, for example) that would lead one to believe that the Mahoney roster is VERY unofficial. But you're right, this is all circumstantial.
That, or from teams who didn't get in to the tournament at all. Saint Louis, for instance, has some players that were frequently called in by Rongen and they didn't get an NCAA bid. Same with South Florida, Stanford and Clemson, among others.
Also include U-17 players for the roster: Rueckner Sarkodie Borja Soroka Besagno Zimmerman Looks like many college defenders need to call in.
Brandon Owens from UCLA should be on the team. I know of him because he's a SoCal guy. What other collegiate defenders are locks?
Very intresting to see 88's called in. They must be considered by US coaches the elite of the u17 national team at this point or they just might be players they think can hold up well physically.
i like seeing the 2 boys from my home state on the list from the 17's Zimmerman Besagno both are good size and can play physical style of soccer if need be.
Probably is a size thing. Anyway none of them will be playing for the U20s in qualifiers as that would rule them out of the U17s, and since the U17s come after the U20s, they can't play in the U20 finals either without losing U17 status. They're there likely to make up a roster or at least provide players to practice against.
Agreed voros, but the experience for those U-17's even if it's practice or a small part in these games that mean little will be of big value. I think it will actually be a confidence booster for the ones getting a chance to play or practice. It also will give the coaches an easy way to motivate the older players to work hard in training. Plus it's an early look at the players that they may believe have the best potential to be with the national teams as they get older. I think mentally it's a boost for all of the 17's invited.
Maybe true but at the same token it's very close to qualifying time. I don't think now is the time to bring in a bunch of news guys. It will just delay the building of cohesiveness within the team. I don't even think this event should have been scheduled. I read that it was set up by Rongen before he got his Chivas job. I doubt Sigi really wants to have this event since he can't bring in a solid group of 85s and 86s, with one "89" of course.
True, but with a bunch of the college players not available for the whole time, why not do a little experimenting? As I understand, the U-20s will be training in December and will probably do so for the bulk of the time until qualifying starts.
Here are the stats from the U20 team this year, through July 23. http://www.ussoccer.com/teams/stats_results.sps?iType=268&icustompageid=9463 Of those players, several should be available to Sigi this week, either because they have a first round bye or because their school didn’t make the NCAA tournament. Obviously, there could be others from these schools, or any other school, that Sigi is interested in and could call in. And, if Rongen looked at a player for the first time this year after July 23, they won’t be included because the stats don’t go past that date. First Round NCAA Bye Wake Forest Steve Curfman, M (So.) http://wakeforestsports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/curfman_steven00.html Patrick Phelan, D (Fr.) http://wakeforestsports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/phelan_patrick00.html Julian Valentin, D, (Fr.) http://wakeforestsports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/valentin_julian00.html Wake stats: http://wakeforestsports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND Indiana Jacob Peterson, F (So.) http://www.iuhoosiers.com/menssoccer/roster/peterson.html IU stats: http://www.iuhoosiers.com/menssoccer/statistics/#TEAM.IND Virginia Hunter Freeman, D/M (Jr.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/freeman_jon00.html Nico Colaluca, M (Fr.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/colaluca_nico00.html Will Hall, M (So.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/hall_will00.html Dane Murphy, M (Fr.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/murphy_dane00.html UVa stats: http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND Notre Dame Nate Norman, F/M (So.) http://und.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/norman_nate00.html ND stats: http://und.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/nd-m-soccer-CumulativeStats.html#TEAM.IND UCLA Chad Barrett, F (So.) http://uclabruins.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/barrett_chad00.html Greg Folk, D (Fr.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/colaluca_nico00.html Kamani Hill, F (Fr.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/colaluca_nico00.html Kiel McLung, D (So.) http://virginiasports.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/colaluca_nico00.html Brandon Owens, D (So.) http://uclabruins.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/owens_brandon00.html UCLA stats: http://uclabruins.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND Southern Methodist Adrian Chevannes, D (So.) http://www.smumustangs.com/bios.asp?sport=soccerm&ID=498&sort=last Stephen Sandbo, GK (Fr.) http://www.smumustangs.com/bios.asp?sport=soccerm&ID=478&sort=last SMU stats: http://www.smumustangs.com/teamstats.asp?ID=7 Boston College Charlie Davies, F (Fr.) http://bceagles.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/davies_charlie00.html BC stats: http://bceagles.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND Not in NCAAs Stanford Andrew Kartunen, GK (So.) http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/kartunen_andrew00.html Stanford stats: http://gostanford.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND Saint Louis John DiRaimando, M (So.) http://slubillikens.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/diraimondo_john00.html Will John, F (So.) http://slubillikens.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/stlo-m-soccer-CumulativeStats.html Tim Ward, D (Fr.) http://slubillikens.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/ward_tim00.html Brian Grazier, M (So.) http://slubillikens.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/grazier_brian00.html SLU stats: http://slubillikens.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/spec-rel/stlo-m-soccer-CumulativeStats.html South Florida Rodrigo Hidalgo, F (Fr.) http://gobulls.usf.edu/Sports/Athlete.asp?s=Soccer&i=509 Christian Jimenez, M (Fr.) http://gobulls.usf.edu/Sports/Athlete.asp?s=Soccer&i=511 USF stats: http://isis.fastmail.usf.edu/usf-athletics/Sports/menssoccer/2005/04stats/teamcume.htm#TEAM.IND Clemson Nathan Sturgis, D (Fr.) http://clemsontigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/sturgis_nathan00.html Stuart Holden, M (So.) http://clemsontigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/holden_stuart00.html Phil Marfuggi, GK (So.) http://clemsontigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/sturgis_nathan00.html Clemson stats: http://clemsontigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND Wisconsin Aaron Holbein, D (So.) http://clemsontigers.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/stats/2004-2005/teamcume.html#TEAM.IND UW stats: http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/mscr/stat_poll/2004_09_08_15_23_22_mscr.pdf UC Davis – Mariano Arrua, M (So.) http://ucdavisaggies.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/arrua_mariano00.html UCD stats: http://ucdavisaggies.collegesports.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/arrua_mariano00.html Two other players, Mike Orozco and Octavio Pino, I couldn’t find any info on, college or otherwise.
I believe that it's a different player -- on the 2000 Region I '86 team, there was a kid from Virginia by this name. (On the current Region I '86 team, there is an ODP Europe kid named "Raphael Rogers," who might conceivably be the same person.)