Twellman: 3rd bid from Preston North End turned down

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by The Magpie, Jan 28, 2008.

  1. hollowfish

    hollowfish Member

    Aug 29, 2007
    Indiana
    well ok now 3 million bucks!? I kind of understood the first two offers being low, but now this is just kind of silly on the crafts end of the deal.

    Look slike their tight purse strings have really screwed them for this year
     
  2. Trevallion

    Trevallion Member

    May 3, 2006
    The Yakima Valley
    Sorry Taylor! It's too bad you signed that contract extension with the Revs. I bet your kicking yourself right now.
     
  3. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.
    Ya know - I understand wanting to keep him because you are running out of playmakers but you know Taylor has to be pissed at this.
     
  4. Trevallion

    Trevallion Member

    May 3, 2006
    The Yakima Valley
    You know...I really feel badly for Taylor. I know that no one forced him to sign that contract extension with the Revs, but it still sucks for him that the Revs aren't willing to sell him.

    This really doesn't look good for the Krafts and the Revolution. It certainly creating a negative image around the rest of the league and country.
     
  5. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, this looks terrible for the Krafts and the Revolution! I mean, not selling their best player, that's total bullocks! It's high time Bob realized his team exists to provide players for Championship relegation battlers. I can't believe he's getting in the way AGAIN by wanting an offer worthy of the best player on his team and one of the best players in MLS year in and year out. What an idiot!

    P.S. I think I need another cup of coffee. I'll probably regret this later.
     
  6. ScottyB10

    ScottyB10 Member

    Nov 21, 2005
    Waco, Texas
    Seriously, let the guy go. He's not Michael Jordan, he's not going to bring you a championship, the fans are still going to go to the games if he's not there. This is ridiculous. I feel terrible for Taylor, he wants to pursue his career in England and experience something different and he can't because the FO won't let it happen. If I were Taylor, I'd ask for a trade, or just leave.
     
  7. Dignan

    Dignan Member+

    Nov 29, 1999
    Granada
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Three million seems like a pretty good deal for Taylor.

    Is Sunil still running the show in New England?

    I feel bad for Twellman. I can see MLS wanting to protect its assets, but if the deal is good and the player wants to go, you have to do it.
     
  8. Trevallion

    Trevallion Member

    May 3, 2006
    The Yakima Valley
    C'mon man! I know the Revolution doesn't have to sell Twellman. But, tell me this doesn't make the Revolution look bad?

    It sounds like you don't think $3million is enough for Taylor...How much do you think he really is worth?
     
  9. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do feel for Taylor, if only because of the money in it for him, but I definitely don't think he's getting taken advantage of.

    This is just an example of him being too valuable to the Revs and MLS on top of being part of a team that has unfortunately already lost 2 other attacking options this transfer window in Noonan and Dorman. It's a case of wrong time / wrong place, if nothing else. Personally, I do think that Twellman is worth more to the Revs than $3 mill, especially because all the Revs would get to replace him is $500K and I have to admit the Revs are not good at going out and getting top level talent. I think Twellman is worth at least as much to the New England Revolution as Clint Dempsey was. I'm not saying he is as good, but his contribution to the team is equal or greater in importance, but it's not even about the value.

    The bottom line is Taylor Twellman is not for sale.
     
  11. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Everyone is for sale.

    if the right deal (or one that we all think is beyond excessive for TT's ability, but NE decides to agree to) comes along, Twellman will be on his way out of MLS.

    sure it doesn't look like it's going to happen, because NE values Twellman apparently much more than anyone is able/willing to offer for a transfer fee.
     
  12. Trevallion

    Trevallion Member

    May 3, 2006
    The Yakima Valley
    Well said! You make some good and valid points about Twellman's value to the Revolution.

    I still think this makes the Krafts and Revolution look bad. Players will be more careful about signing long term deals with the Revs. Some players (free agents) will probably even avoid signing for the Revs because of their devoloping reputation. But, these are just my opinions...what do I really know?
     
  13. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    MidAtlantic
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    MLS does not equal the Revolution
    MLS does not equal the Revolution
    MLS does not equal the Revolution

    So many on here bemoan single-entity. Well this is what happens when you let the owners make all personnel decisions. Probably MLS HQ would like to sell Twellman for a fair price.

    This just means contracts of players on the Revolution will be very specific in the future.
     
  14. sdotsom

    sdotsom Member+

    Manchester United
    Mar 27, 2005
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    I feel bad for Twellman on this one. Someone asked why he'd leave for Preston of all places - well he's 28 years old, isn't he? Any chance of a future in the European game is quickly winding down, and this is probably his last shot at getting into the game over there. So why would he not want to turn it down? He's seen his team sell off their top attacking options, and he now wants to go out himself. I totally understand his position.

    At the same time, the club has no obligation to let him go. However, I don't think Taylor Twellman is going to lead the Revs to any sort of glory any time soon, so why not let him go, make a little change, and get on with it?
     
  15. SCBozeman

    SCBozeman Member

    Jun 3, 2001
    St. Louis
    How does it make them look bad?

    Yes, players and agents have to carefully negotiate contracts. Big surprise. If a player turns out to be good, it may be difficult to leave a team.

    That doesn't make the Revs look bad. It might make Twellman for signing a deal he may not be satisfied with or make even PNE look bad for valuing an assert different from the Revs, but I don't see how that makes the Krafts look bad.

    You're saying the Revs are over-valuing TT, he isn't worth $3 million (or whatever portion goes to the Revs), but then that's just different valuation, right? Your treasured hand-me-down from your grandfather may be worth $10 to me, may be more use to me than you, but you saying "I won't sell for $100" doesn't make you look bad. See?
     
  16. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In all fairness, it's not that simple. This is a quote from an article in "This is Lancashire", today.

    http://www.thisislancashire.co.uk/s...lub_record_bid_for_us_striker_turned_down.php

    So straight from the club chairman's mouth, it's MLS that is not willing to negotiate. I'm sure Revs management and ownership is involved in this decision, but MLS HQ is definitely doing it's part.
     
  17. joehill

    joehill Member

    Sep 28, 2005
    brooklyn
    Club:
    DC United
    I'm not sure whether I'd like Twellman to go or not, depends on if he'd be more or less likely to ever get called up for the US MNT if he played for Preston.

    If he'd be less likely, then I'm willing to add my upcoming tax rebate to Preston's offer.
     
  18. chrishungate

    chrishungate Member

    Dec 16, 2005
    Katy, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's really silly of the Revs/MLS not to sell Twellman now. If I heard correctly, he only has 1 year left on his recently signed contract, so they either sell him now, or let him go for free in a year and deal with a disgruntled player all year.

    Why not bank the 3 million now and get a DP striker to replace him and put some more butts in seats (Twellman ain't doin' it, folks)? They're going to have to replace him in a year anyway.

    I understand wanting to keep your "star" (aka "the only player on our team who can score goals") player, but then treat him like a star.
     
  19. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thats cause MLS is the entity that owns the contracts and negotiates the contracts. But its the Revs that decide whetehr or not they are willing to sell or not, so Preston sent them an offer, MLS relays it to NE, NE says these are our requirments..and MLS handles the communications.

    Of course they have a hand in this, its their contract,but MLS has set a policy over the last few years that they wont force clubs to sell any deals for players they broker on their behalf.
     
  20. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    North Ridgeville, OH
    You heard correctly. I "heard" that too. The problem is you were hearing it from a source that is completely f-ing clueless when it comes to anything relating to MLS.

    Taylor just finished up year 1 of a 4 year contract. His original deal was set to expire at the end of 2008.
     
  21. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    Club:
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You heard wrong, he signed a 4 year deal for 400K last season and has 1 year used up on his 4 year deal, not 1 tear remaining.

    EDIT: Or heard right from a retard as the previous poster says.
     
  22. Hed7181

    Hed7181 Member

    Jul 1, 2003
    VA Beach, VA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The confusion comes in because the final two years of his contract are optional so theoretically his contract 'could' be up after next season, but the probably of the Revs not exercising their option on his contract are pretty thin, especially considering their stance right now.
     
  23. ButlerBob

    ButlerBob Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 13, 2001
    Evanston, IL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    If it was his long term goal to pursue a career in England, why did he sign a 4 year extension with the club. Why didn't he just let his then contract run out and then shop around for clubs. Also, if he really wanted to do well in Europe, why did he come back from Germany? Why didn't he tough it out or find another club that he would have regular first team play.
     
  24. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

    Jan 10, 2001
    North Ridgeville, OH
    No - the confusion comes from the fact that far too many people don't simply disregard absolutely everything concerning MLS that come's out of Cohen's mouth.
     

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