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Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Various Styles, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    LMFAO

    Have these duses ever done PKs? Ever?
     
  2. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Lol this is pathetic
     
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  3. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This is worse than that 2008 Olympic qualifier against Haiti lol
     
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  4. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I mean, it just isn’t true. Liga MX fuerzas básicas take part in international tourneys frequently and more than hold their own against better teams than Blackpool.
     
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  5. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Our keeper doing his best to keep us in it but takers aren't helping...
     
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  6. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
  7. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    If that kid Lozano only made his PK, this would all be moot...
     
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  8. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Lol no Chivas players no Mundial. Fire everyone
     
  9. Dos_santos

    Dos_santos Member+

    Aug 10, 2006
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That team had pro players..this is u20
     
  10. wolfpupz

    wolfpupz Member+

    Jan 24, 2011
    SJCA
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Wow no u20 WC and no paris olympics damn
     
  11. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    So no Sub-20 WC and no Olympics

    Awesome job FMF! Gonna go full circle with the fails in Qatar later this year too
     
  12. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Lucho deserves an extensive ban the way Hugo did after the Haiti fiasco.
     
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  13. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    Clearly Luis Perez didn’t have these boys prepared for this. I guess he never had them practice PKs? An easier path could not have been had, but you gotta hand it to the Guatemalan goal keeper. Well deserved for them, and a justified result for the level of preparation this Mexico team showed. All of you guys have already said it. This is just the fruit of how business is run in the Mexican soccer system. It’s great when everyone around you plays with a square ball, but the region has improved while things have stayed the same or regressed for Mexico.
     
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  14. Mexican101

    Mexican101 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    Alright. Well. Qatar is our last stop to seal these horrible last couple of years.
     
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  15. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    This is so boring. It's clear that most youth players struggle to make the leap from the youth leagues to the professional league. You don't pay enough attention if you can't see that. You don't even have to take my word for it. Several sporting directors have spoken on that very topic and they've all said as much, the gap between the youth leagues and Liga MX is too large. If you don't want to accept that and think the only reason we haven't produced a great senior NT is because Liga MX coaches hate youth players, you're naive.
     
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  16. superm

    superm Member+

    Jun 8, 2013
    When was the last time Chivas produced anyone good as of late? Don’t they spend millions buying other clubs youth players?
     
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  17. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Para que mas rabia les de, remember that the U20/Olympics package qualifying thing was created so the USA could make the olympics more often.
     
  18. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No olympics, what? Lol FMF can suck it for not developing as needed. Hope we go three and out at Qatar too!
     
  19. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Instead of saying it’s boring, you could just admit you were wrong. The Blackpool comment was especially obtuse considering there are actual results to the contrary, but who am I to use facts.

    Liga MX not knowing how to develop players isn’t a new nor a groundbreaking statement. To think there are still people from the old guard who think that 20s year olds aren’t ready to play in Liga MX is depressing. I guess the euro leagues didn’t get that memo.
     
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  20. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    I didn't remember until other people here brought it up. Basically the nads were missing out on too many olympics because they couldn't qualify with MLS players so CONCACAF came up with some weird new system where the nations that qualify for the U20 WCs that line up with olympics qualify for olympics as well. Something like that. It makes zero sense but anything to help the USSF.
     
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  21. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Saying the same thing over and over. You constantly make wrong assessments about youth players in the Liga MX thread. I don't know how wrong you are about other clubs, but you're virtually always wrong about Pachuca players, and I know that because I actually watch the U20 league games. Your binary thinking is boring. Much more needs to be done rather than forcing Liga MX clubs to play more 20 year olds.
     
  22. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Next time, I’d think twice before arguing something that can be factually disproven.

    That or learn to accept you were wrong. It’s that simple. Good night.
     
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  23. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Yeah dude, you know more than sporting directors who say the players aren't ready. Whatever you say.
     
  24. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    20 year old Mexicans are too young for the "rigor" of mighty Liga MX.

    But teenage euro players are okay to be starters in Liga NOS, La Liga, Eredivisie, etc.

    Complements from the guy who told us Bryan González and Roberto de la Rosa were good.

    Por eso estamos como estamos.
     
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  25. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    #7300 Salmos, Jun 30, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2022
    My comments have nothing to do with youth specifically. They have to do with the gap between the secondary leagues and Liga MX. The players in the U20 league happen to be 20, but there's a big gap between Liga MX and Expansion as well.

    "Por eso estamos como estamos". Ok perfect, let's leave it there and we can just tell everyone your corny ass had the final say.
     

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