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Discussion in 'Mexico National Team' started by Various Styles, Aug 2, 2002.

  1. El Verde

    El Verde Member+

    Oct 15, 2013
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Wtf are these corners
     
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  2. Saldgotti1991

    Saldgotti1991 Member+

    Jun 7, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That kid better never shoot a penalty again.
     
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  3. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    These two MLSers on the wings are ass.
     
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  4. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    The MLS may suck, but it's better than our U20 league. The scary part is there's a huge gap between Liga MX and Liga de Expansion, and then there's a huge gap between Liga de Expansion and Liga MX SUB20. So long as our secondary leagues are crap, this is going to happen. You don't have to have a bunch of U20 players starting in Liga MX, but you have to give them a competitive alternative until they're ready.
     
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  5. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I’d agree with you if we didn’t already have quite a bit of success at the youth levels.

    You can criticize Mexico for a lot of things, but not for its track record at the youth levels. The FMF is trying to fix something that wasn’t broken just for the sake of drinking the MLS coolaid.
     
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  6. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    That #18 Johnny Perez has been playing well
     
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  7. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    The FMF puts far more effort into those camps leading up to youth world cups than a lot of other federations, and that's a big part of the reason they've had success in them. It's nice that we have silverware there, but it's not an accurate representation of our development of players.
     
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  8. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    This game reeks of PKs and I’m sorry but that favors Guatemala. This game has been in the muck and I’m sure Guatemala has no problem with that. Just not any standout quality on this Mexican team.
     
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  9. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Those camps mean jack shit if clubs don’t continue doing their part in further developing these players
     
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  10. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Not really accurate. When it’s common for players to undergo the famous proceso and debut “young” at 23-25 years old, it’s no wonder why youth success doesn’t translate to the senior NT.

    Just because Liga MX doesn’t know how to develop players doesn’t mean the talent isn’t initially there.
     
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  11. wolfpupz

    wolfpupz Member+

    Jan 24, 2011
    SJCA
    Club:
    Pumas UNAM
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Violante should just stop trying to shoot
     
  12. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Luis Perez is such a shit coach. How has he not made any subs in ET?
     
  13. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    #7263 Salmos, Jun 30, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2022
    Forget the senior NT. It doesn't even translate into Liga MX. Even just going by my own club, which is supposed to be an example to follow, most guys who make their debut in Liga MX are extremely underprepared. Lozano, Aceves, and Guti were the only exceptions in recent times. Most guys take 2+ seasons just to adapt to the rigor of the league, and from those most end up being loaned to bottom of the barrel clubs like Mazatlan or to the second division. They aren't ready. You can force clubs to play them and it would probably be a net positive for the NT, but improving our secondary options would be a much better solution. Less players going to shit bc they debuted too early and couldn't handle it, and overall would be a much more streamlined developmental ecosystem. You can also force clubs to play youth players, but that alone isn't the best solution.
     
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  14. Thecoach101

    Thecoach101 Member

    None
    Mexico
    Mar 27, 2021
    Jonathan Perez is very good, but Torres is not a good winger. He seems to play better as the second forward.
     
  15. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I have no faith in this team winning this game in PKs

    Bunch of mental midgets and that coward Luis Perez pulled a Mejía Barón not making subs
     
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  16. El Chanclas

    El Chanclas Member+

    Nov 21, 2008
    He screwed up the penalty but Lozano should have remained in. Much better presence in the box than his replacement. Wish I could be optimistic about this upcoming shootout. Guatemalan keeper looks too poised and strong.
     
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  17. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Saying 20 year-olds “aren’t ready” is precisely this league's problem. It’s weird better leagues don’t use the “rigor” of the league as an excuse to not play youngsters.
     
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  18. Thecoach101

    Thecoach101 Member

    None
    Mexico
    Mar 27, 2021
    Since about minute 70 or so, too much individual play. Violante with some good runs clearing space, then taking a hero shot, Perez beats one defender, cuts back creates space, he needs to let the ball go.. same with Gonzalez. There is good individual talent on this team, but you need to create trust in team, without taking away their individual play. I don't see much creation of play from Ambriz and Mariscal, at least not in this game.
     
  19. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Es que la jerarquía, seguir los procesos y toda esas mamadas
     
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  20. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Damn. This Guatemala keeper has been money
     
  21. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    The shot location doesn't hurt tho.
     
  22. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    We're fvcked
     
  23. Kaney

    Kaney Sleeping Dragon
    Staff Member

    Dec 12, 2005
    Lake County, IL AKA Southern Wisconsin
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    These duses can't hit corners on PKs...
     
  24. Hecho en Chivas

    Hecho en Chivas Member+

    Apr 22, 2004
    Chulajuana
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Our guys are shit. Unbelievable
     
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  25. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Because they have better youth systems + better secondary options that further streamline the development of the players. Blackpool would beat Juarez 5-0.
     

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