Kolo Toure...the best defensemen Well in the "Top 5 at every position" thread I noticed that only 1 or 2 of you have Tour in your top 5, however, I would regard him as the best or second best in the world. I was watching an Arsenal game and the announcer, as biased as they might be, said the same thing, so I was just wondering, whether you think he is or isn't the best, what are you opinions on him?
Re: Kolo Toure...the best defensemen i cant think of any bettre centre halves in the prem gallas is close, arsenal have a stacked centre half department
Laughable comments. What I posted previously stands and anyone outside of 'Chelsea' knows that I am correct.
Re: Kolo Toure...the best defensemen He's top 10. Last season he stepped up his game but is still raw. When on-form you could argue that he merits a higher placing but generally speaking I think top 10 is fair. He's good at most things but not yet excellent at any which is why I rate other defenders higher. If he continues to progress the way he has then he'll definitely start moving up, particularly as the established greats start to wind-down their careers.
Re: Kolo Toure...the best defensemen Thread on Kolo Toure merged. If you start a thread on a subject, you shouldn't start another one to discuss that thread.
So according to you, one's form is discounted due to diving? Well, then, I suppose Cristiano Ronaldo's complete and utter shit after the World Cup.
Here are the acutal ones,missed out by the biased ones GK Buffon Lehmann Cech Casillas Van der sar CB Terry Puyol Nesta Cannavoro Ayala ??missed someone LB Cole Grosso Lahm (not much here) Rb Cafu Sagnol Zambrotta Zanetti Suprisingly neville makes it to the list don't know how Centre midifeld(not CDM or CAM) Gerrard Ballack(all idioits who missed him) Viera Centre atk mid + support striker Kaka Ronnie Juninho Riquelme Totti CF Henry Klose Eto'o Drogs RVN Wingers R-obben R-onaldo R-ibery ??(didnt think of much about these)
Care to name a more in-form striker? Because up until this point in the season, I really don't think there's anyone on the same level as Drogba. Leading Prem scorer and tied for the CL scoring lead. He's not been great every game, but then again, no player in Europe has been. He still has the great work rate that characterized him over the past two years, but now he's also scoring goals, a wide variety and in clutch situations. Not to mention his presence on defensive set pieces. I don't see who else is in better form thus far, in terms of strikers.
yeah lets deal with keepers first before we go to right backs 1. Buffon 2. Cesar 3. Scott carson... few people see this 4. petr cech 5. french keeper who replaced barthez (name gone) casillas has depreciated alot he was my best in 2002
GK: Cech, Buffon, Lehmann, van der Sar, Casillas RB: Zambrotta, J. Zanetti, Dani Alves, Sagnol, Miguel LB: Lahm, Ashley Cole, Grosso------ CB: Cannavaro, Puyol, Gallas, Toure, Mertesacker DM: Frings, Essien, Makelele, Gattuso, Vieira AM: Kaka, Ronaldinho, Juninho, Cesc, Deco Wings: C. Ronaldo, Messi, Robben, Schweinsteiger, Ribery CF: Klose, Henry, Eto'o, Drogba, Rooney Not in order. I think Dani Alves is a wonderful player, very underrated because he doesn't play for a glamourous side, ditto for the Werder trio of Mertesacker, Frings and Klose who'd I actually build any team around of. Grosso isn't really that good, but so are a lot of LBs not named Lahm, Zambrotta or Cashley Cole Abt. Drogba, there's no point in leaving him out now, he is a menace and currently unstoppable.
My list: GK: Buffon, Weidenfeller, Sánchez, Cesar, Coupet RB: Zambrotta, J. Zanetti, Dani Alves, Sagnol, Zaccardo LB: Lahm, Ashley Cole, Grosso, Heinze, Taiwo CB: Cannavaro, Nesta, Vidic, King, Gallas DM: Frings, Essien, Pirlo, De Rossi, Cambiasso AM: Kaka, Ronaldinho, Ballack, Gerrard, Totti Wings: C. Ronaldo, Messi, Robben, Schweinsteiger, Ribery CF: Klose, Henry, Drogba, RvN, Villa Not in order. I hope I did not forget anyone of importance.
Keepers: Buffon (there is no doubting that hes the best in the world) Cech Lehmann Cesar Coupet Central defenders: Nesta (in my opinion hes better than cannavaro, but his world cup cost him) Toure Vidic (a very underated player) Puyol Cannavaro Side backs: A. Cole Quaresma (i like the way this guy plays) Zambrotta Riise (can do it all) Eboue Def/central mids: Ballack Gerrard Essien Vieira M. Diarra Att. mids: Ronaldinho (best player in the world) Kaka Rosicky Van Persie (i like him more as a play maker as opposed to striker) Juninho Wingers: Cristiano Ronaldo Giggs (been one of the best for a long time) Ribery Van Der Vaart (could play for any club in the world) Kewell (i cant believe that no one has mentioned him yet, injuries aside, on his day hes one of the best in the world) Strikers: Henry (best striker in the world) Eto'o Shevchenko (had a bad season so far, but still one of the best youll ever see) Rooney Villa just my opinion.
on defenders you have forgotten Alex of Brasil I think queresma is not a defender van nielstelroy is playing well and is better than sheva giggs is done
i have to pick the best 5 in the world.. alex is not better than anyone i mentioned. quaresma can play either as a left back or winger. when he plays as a side back he dominates, plus he doesnt fit into the top 5 wingers in my opinion and i wanted to put him in. VN might be having a good run of late, but shevchenko is one of the best strikers i have ever seen, RVN isnt. giggs is a gun. i should give an honourable mention to ibrahimovic, hes tops.