To hate VAR or to hate the LOTG? That is the question [R]

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  1. el-capitano

    el-capitano Moderator
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    Aug 30, 2005
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    VAR To Consider Penis Offside For 2021/2022 Season

    :D

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    https://socceronsunday.com/article/...bfmg7aThOBDWsdNdXpVy-M8uzOWcgoWyBOUfrXoErVHvM
     
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  2. Menace2Sobriety

    Menace2Sobriety Member+

    Aug 12, 2004
    Washington DC
    Is that why Flanno can’t find a team?
     
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  3. SamScouse

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  4. bayred

    bayred Member+

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    May 28, 2018
    Well this proves there are more pricks than assholes running the game
     
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  5. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

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    Orygun coast
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  6. bayred

    bayred Member+

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    May 28, 2018
    It's going to take some real balls to make these calls. I hope they don't cock it up.
     
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  7. zaqualung

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    #957 zaqualung, Nov 12, 2020
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    I just repped this - but I also want to state that it is the truest, absolute best post on this subject that I can fathom. I could have written 5,000 words (Sam and Burnign24/7 will attest) and not nailed it as well.

    Simple problem is this:
    Some fans care about the feel and meaning of the sport from the perspective of why it is being watched and followed. And this is their imperative. And some others care above all about what can be framed into readable exact law as if it were just as important. :rolleyes::rolleyes:

    IMO one type of these two human types is living a sad b@stard type of existence.....
    This is a game. Exactitude beyond the human eye is NOT necessary.
     
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  8. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    I have your coat here....
    ;)
     
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  9. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    #959 zaqualung, Nov 12, 2020
    Last edited: Nov 12, 2020
    To WingTips:
    re- this-
    "And I'll "chime in" whenever the ******** I please."



    He will too ... (chime in - like a dud clock just outside the Swiss Border)

    What he won;t do (psychological problems don;t permit him to) is admit when he is told he got the meaning of a word wrong in a chimed in argument that didn't even effin' need to be had except for his inability to shut up and lose one about the meaning in the first place.
     
  10. SamScouse

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  11. burning247

    burning247 Member+

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    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
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    ...but....but....LiVARpool!

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  12. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Never held any weight... pretty much middle of the pack in beneficial VAR calls last year.
     
  13. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Liverpool FC
    the news ahead of the LC game just keeps getting better .....

    https://www.thisisanfield.com/2020/...te-returns-to-var-for-liverpool-vs-leicester/

    A month after his disastrous performance as VAR for the Merseyside derby, David Coote has been named in the role for Liverpool’s clash with Leicester on Sunday.

    Coote was roundly criticised for his lack of awareness in the 2-2 draw at Goodison Park in October, namely having overlooked a season-ending challenge from Jordan Pickford on Virgil van Dijk.

    Not only did Coote ignore the tackle from Pickford, instead only focusing on a marginal offside in the buildup to the collision, but he also came under scrutiny for ruling out a late winner for Jordan Henderson.

    Liverpool requested a Premier League investigation into the use of the technology in the derby as a result, and the official was removed from referee and VAR duties for the following weekend’s fixtures.
    Back as a referee the weekend after, Coote was then back at Stockley Park for the next round of games, with the concerns from the Merseyside derby largely falling on deaf ears.
     
  14. burning247

    burning247 Member+

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    Sep 16, 2000
    Dallas
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    Great, can't wait...
     
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  15. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    The Old Boys. I’ve got your back routine.
     
  16. delaynomo

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  17. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

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    Doesn't get much clearer than that.
     
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  18. usscouse

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  19. Red Bird

    Red Bird Member+

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    Oxford
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    Pathetic article-- fortunately we have eyes, too.
     
  20. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Penalty taken away in BHA match... Oliver used monitor to reverse his own pen decision.

    A lot of people saying this is a super obvious pen, I think it could go either way and the player making such a meal of it does himself no favors upon close analysis of the play. Notably this is the kind of decision which up to now has just not really been reversed, so I wonder how anti-VAR people might feel about it.
     
  21. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Handball goal taken away by VAR in City-Spurs match as well. Would have leveled the score.

    It looks like the right call to me. Always going to be somewhat subjective with regard to where the line is on the arm. This looked like pretty clear arm control to me.
     
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  22. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Still think the t-shirt line was a terrible change. Can't see any benefit whatsoever. If anything, it is harder to call and encourages some use of the arm.
     
  23. speker

    speker Member+

    May 16, 2009
    Canada
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I thought it was not a pen and was pleased that Oliver actually checked the monitor and that the correct decision was made. I think that is VAR working properly with the on field ref (not the guy in the video room) actually deciding the call.
     
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  24. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    I'm all for monitor-use. It's the best system. Under the current rules, perhaps unfortunately, it just doesn't apply to offside calls. That would be another fairly easy change... just treat offside calls like a penalty call and make the ref go to monitor every time and say it's just a judgement call. That could solve a lot of the toenail offside bullshit.

    Overall I think the change is positive for 2 reasons, it eliminates armpit offside calls & I don't mind a fairly hard definition of what handball actually is mechanically, which has never before a couple years ago existed in the rules.

    However, I see where you're coming from. There are times/incidents where it's really annoying that this is the line, especially since it's pretty obvious by the Mane disallowed goal and the Bamford disallowed goal that an upper arm offside isn't really any more satisfying than an armpit offside.
     
  25. newterp

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    Jun 6, 2007
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    United States
    I thought it wasn’t a pen either. Player got the ball and good bit of it - may have touched the attacker - who then proceeded to die.
     
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