The Woke Madness Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by YankBastard, Oct 13, 2021.

  1. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

    Jun 18, 2005
    Estados Unidos
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  2. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    We'll see how mad this turns out to be. In the past, when the comics introduced black and female superheroes, a lot of people complained. Now Black Panther and Wonder Woman are comic book staples.
     
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  3. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    I'm not a comic book nerd & almost all the superhero movies are trash. But what would bi Superman's power be?
     
  4. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
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    Jul 16, 2017
    He's the son of Superman so...same powers just a kid.
     
  5. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
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    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
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    To be clear, that's not Clark Kent / Kal-El, the best known Superman. That's his son Jon Kent, who is currently Superman in the comics. It's a publicity stunt - something that has happened in comics before - remember when Superman died, and like how professional wrestling used to claim they were real, DC comics was all "no, he's dead for real, he's not coming back" and then like a year later he came back? That's going to happen here - at some point in the not-too-distant future, Jon Kent will stop being Superman and Clark Kent will come back to the role, and everyone who's bothered by a fictional character being bi can breathe a big sigh of relief because Superman once again only humps ladies.
     
  6. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Bisexual =/= gay. It is absolutely astounding how many people are getting this wrong.
     
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  7. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    one of the most grating "woke" things these days is hearing and seeing references to "pregnant people".

    ffs ... if you are carrying human offspring, you're a woman.
     
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  8. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
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    Jul 16, 2017
    No
     
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  9. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

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    Toronto
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  10. bostonsoccermdl

    bostonsoccermdl Moderator
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    Apr 3, 2002
    Denver, CO
    It doesn't stop there. Muppets are insensitive, Disney the same. Now James Bond exhibits toxic masculinity. The list goes on and on.
    And people wonder why the woke movement is getting backlash. Obviously these aren't serious offenses, but the underlying mentality/principle of this (albeit extreme) crowd, has gotten rediculous.

    And god forbid you make light of it, there is hell to pay! The whole thing has become a farce.
     
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  11. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    or ridiculous, even.
     
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  12. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I have my quarrels with college progressives, but I don't see the problem here. Nobody is complaining. Nobody is boycotting. Nobody is telling other people how bad they are. This is a positive, creative step of writing a character. It is not being a nag.
     
  13. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    So rape is bad now?
     
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  14. roby

    roby Member+

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    Feb 27, 2005
    So Cal
    The whole world is becoming a big pile of doody.....and now this! :rolleyes:
     
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  15. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
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    Why does anyone care about the sexuality of a cartoon character?
     
  16. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    If you have time to march off to the culture war over a cartoon, I think your life is probably a lot better than you've led yourself to believe it is, which means it's probably a good idea to spend less time online no matter what side you're on.
     
  17. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    That's a good quote for politics too. In 1984, inflation was 4% and unemployment was 7%, and Ronnie won re-election in a landslide. Now inflation is 3.5% (trailing 12 months), unemployment is 4.8%, and it's whine whine whine, complain complain complain, bad polls for the current President, just as bad polls for the previous President.
     
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  18. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
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    I think you're right. The right wing has had a discontent factory churning out agtating news stories since Limbaugh got syndicated and Fox News went on the air in the 90s. Of course, the left-leaning media has more recently figured out how to generate clicks and retweets and the like, too. They just haven't been at it as long.
     
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  19. phedre44

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    Apr 1, 2008
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    A trans man is a person who was assigned female at birth (so, has a vagina, uterus, ovaries, etc.) but identifies as a man. Often, but not always, a trans man will take efforts to appear more "masculine" because he feels like a man and wants others to treat him like they would any other man, so he might take hormone replacement therapy, grow a beard, lift weights to grow bigger muscles, wear clothing that is considered masculine by society at large, etc. Depending on his level of gender dysphoria, he may have top and/or bottom surgery (to remove breasts/turn a hole into a pole, to be crude). He is "biologically female" and could become pregnant (unless he has had bottom surgery, and if he is taking hormones, he'd need to stop temporarily), but he's still a man.

    Biological sex: Male, Female, Intersex
    Gender: Man, Woman, Non-binary

    Your biological sex is determined by your chromosomes and genitals (and even then, it's a bit more complicated than that), but your gender is a label you apply to yourself and have others apply to you that is determined by a million other factors. You see a man walking down the street and apply "man" to him because of the way he looks and dresses and talks and acts, not because you saw his dick and looked at his cells under a microscope to confirm he has a Y-chromosome.

    Many trans men never want to become pregnant because it increases their dysphoria. Some just don't want kids. Some adopt. If they want to have their own biological children, they would have to go through the process of having eggs extracted and find a surrogate, which is difficult and very expensive. Some trans men who want to have their own biological children decide it is easier and much, much cheaper to just deal with going off their hormones for a year or two and get pregnant the old fashioned way.
     
  20. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

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    Sep 6, 2001
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    Thank you for the voice of reason.
     
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  21. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
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    Real Salt Lake
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    If I were bi, I might look at this Superman story arc and think, "Hey, I'm represented in popular culture!" instead of thinking it's part of "woke culture." It'd just be culture.

    The question is if I would see everything else as not culture because it wasn't me. I don't imagine that would be the case, just that I would wish to see people like me included.

    Do we have a preponderance of bi comics characters now or something? Or is this a story precisely because it is so unique?
     
  22. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    I think "pregnant people" is example #1 of why many (many!) people scoff at anything remotely "woke" and thereby contribute to the erosion of its well-intended objectives. in this case, efforts to avoid offending a tiny portion of the population is starting to twist language in ways that will slowly make it inoperative. (before you ask: I do feel the same way about "he/she/they".)

    do you think it's a good thing to use "pregnant people"? does it not in a subtle way take away from women their fundamental essence (regardless of their childbearing decisions)? or as my ultra-feminist wife would say "ffs, is there literally NOTHING that men won't take away from women?".
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

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    And a very effective one, apparently.
     
  24. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    This is also taking time away from posts on various tomato sauce, cheese and cooked dough combinations that some might call pizza.
     

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