News: The Transfer thread

Discussion in 'Women's International' started by Stokstaartje95, Aug 29, 2020.

  1. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do know that, and really should have checked the entire roster. But considering that we are still relatively early in Women's professional football (widespread), I was suspicious of any non-UK player. It is still a good sign, both on ability and on recruiting.
     
  2. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
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  3. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
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    Looks like Miedema will play in Lyon from 2022/23 season. Unless Aulas is willing to pay around 400-500k $ as she has 12 months on her contract with Arsenal.
     
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  4. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
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  5. Klingo3034

    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
    Wow is she that worth it?
     
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    Klingo3034 Member+

    Dallas FC
    United States
    Oct 11, 2019
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  7. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can't see this happening, particularly after Oshoala's move to Man U
     
  8. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    Personal preference and wish her the best but I'd trade three of her for one Horan.
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Well, she was voted the MVP of the Champions' League's final and, although there were some other names in Barça who would have equally deserved that award, there is no doubt that her performance in that game was superb and that it's at least since U-20 WWC 2018 that she delivers at international level.

    Well, Horan, at 27, is by now an established international, but Aitana, at 23, is in her prime. The investment in her probably includes the number of years she's supposed to keep playing at her best form.
     
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  10. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
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    Well she is shaped to become best CM in Europe. Aulas already has Egurrola (DM) so he wants Bonmati. (Kumagai and Maro replacements) Bonmati is an outstanding perspective player but there's no way she will leave Barcelona (she herself isn't intrested in leaving). Imo it's all a publicity stunt that aims to ascribe high value for Bonmati for the future. Barcelona wants 3m - Aulas would pay 0,5m.

    Put Horan at no. 6 against Spain and then we will talk ;)
     
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  11. Lechus7

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  12. law10

    law10 Member+

    Dec 26, 2007
    I would really love to see that too. In a real do-or-die match like a World Cup elimination game.

    Definitely Bonmati has more runway in front of her, although I've always seen players in their prime around 27. Both on the men's and women's side. There are always edge cases of young phenoms and late bloomers, but around 27 you have developed and possess mature mental and physical capacities. After that they can start to depreciate, some people quickly and others like Formiga not so quickly.
     
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  13. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Perhaps, but it seems a little odd to me, as Horan and Dunn both signed three-year contracts with the Thorns earlier this year, covering the 2021-23 seasons. Or, perhaps there will be a loan of some sort.
     
  14. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So happy for her. Not the Man City part (as I'm a Tottenham person), but that she is going to teams at the highest level.
     
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  15. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Yeah FA WSL defences are going to struggle against her.
     
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  16. Stokstaartje95

    Feb 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Twente 1965
    List of most valuable players from the leagues in: England, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Sweden, USA (according to soccerdonna). Please note that the value of a player is based on both current skill and future potential. Typically an old player (>30) will have a low market value.
    Rank - Name - Country - Club - Position - Value
    1 Dzsenifer Marozsan (29) - Germany - OL Reign - CM - €425.000
    2 Vivianne Miedema (24) - Netherlands - Arsenal - ST - €350.000
    = Pernille Harder (28) - Denmark - Chelsea - ST - €350.000
    = Alexia Putellas (27) - Spain - FC Barcelona - LM - €350.000
    = Marie-Antoinette Katoto (22) - France - Paris Saint-Germain - ST - €350.000
    = Ada Hegerberg (25) - Norway - Olympique Lyon - ST - €350.000
    7 Caroline Graham Hansen (26) - Norway - FC Barcelona - RM - €300.000
    = Lieke Martens (28) - Netherlands - FC Barcelona - LW - €300.000
    = Jenni Hermoso (31) - Spain - FC Barcelona - ST - €300.000
    10 Wendie Renard (30) - France - Olympique Lyon - CB - €275.000
    11 Sam Kerr (27) - Australia - Chelsea - ST - €250.000
    = Alex Morgan (31) - United States - Orlando Pride - ST - €250.000
    = Nikita Parris (27) - England - Olympique Lyon - RM - €250.000
    = Lena Oberdorf (19) - Germany - VfL Wolfsburg - CB - €250.000
    = Kadidiatou Diani (26) - France - Paris Saint-Germain - RM - €250.000
    = Patri Guijarro (23) - Spain - FC Barcelona - CM - €250.000
    = Mariona Caldentey (25) - Spain - FC Barcelona - LW - €250.000
    = Khadija Shaw (24) - Jamaica - Manchester City - ST - €250.000
    = Esther Gonzalez (28) - Spain - UD Levante - ST - €250.000
    20 Marta (35) - Brazil - Orlando Pride - CAM - €225.000
    = Kosovare Asllani (31) - Sweden - Real Madrid - CAM - €225.000
    = Sofia Jakobsson (31) - Sweden - Real Madrid - RW - €225.000
    = Aitana Bonmati (23) - Spain - FC Barcelona - RM - €225.000
    = Hanna Bennison (18) - Sweden - FC Rosengard - CM - €225.000
    = Cristiana Girelli (31) - Italy - Juventus - ST - €225.000
    26 Crystal Dunn (28) - United States - Portland Thorns - LB - €200.000
    = Dominique Janssen (26) - Netherlands - VfL Wolfsburg - CB - €200.000
    = Valentina Giacinti (27) - Italy - AC Milan - ST - €200.000
    = Olga Carmona (21) - Spain - Real Madrid - LW - €200.000
    30 Joelle Smits (21) - Netherlands - VfL Wolfsburg - ST - €190.000

    Some players have release clauses above €1.000.000. It is interesting to see when multimillion transfers will become commonplace.
     
  17. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Soccerdonna isn't very reliable source - lots of ignorance, wishful thinking and fanboyism out there. It's still a popularity contest but with ascribed monetary values instead of ranks.

    Good sources are FIFA official transfer page or licensed agencies representing players (ie. LFA or CSE, etc..).
     
  18. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #118 Lechus7, Jun 28, 2021
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  19. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
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    aaand.. it's done.

    however...
     
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  20. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Aug 22, 2001
    Don't drink beer but like cheese
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is there anybody faster in the women's game?
     
  21. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    #121 Lechus7, Jul 1, 2021
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    There's a group of equally fast players in women's football.
    Top speed is important... but not as much important as the ability to make number of high speed runs.
    Basically what's better, having a player with top speed 33-35 km/h who can average on 5 runs per game... or player with top speed 30-33 km/h who can make 15 runs per game?
    High intensity Runs.jpg
    Meters at high intensity.jpg KPH.jpg
    It's from UWCL 2020 Final Eight tourney.

    For me there's only one winner here. Pajor has one of the best engines in woso. No wonder everybody wants her... but she isn't interested in leaving Wolfsburg. It's a shame really because imo she is wasting her talent out there... but hey if she's happy, who am I to say otherwise. ;)
     
  22. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Case in point

    Soccerdonna fantasy.... (250 000 €)
    Parris.jpg

    Real life.... (80 000 € + possible 20 000 € bonus)
     
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  23. Stokstaartje95

    Feb 6, 2016
    Club:
    FC Twente 1965
    I agree that the ratings as of now are not accurate. The main issue is that soccerdonna appears to just have looked at the current season, and historical developments have not been taken into account. Over the past few years, apart from the current year, Parris has not played spectacularly, and is probably closer to a 150.000€ value. Also, Ewa Pajor is rated at 125.000€ due to little playing time (injury) this year, but she could easily be 300.000€. I think that the system will be a lot more balanced once this is done for multiple years.

    Transfermarkt is a reputable source for market values in men's football. It should always be noted that a market value is never a guarantee for the actual sum to be paid. For that, different models have been proposed.
     
  24. shlj

    shlj Member+

    Apr 16, 2007
    London
    Club:
    FC Nantes
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Agreed there are many parameters like contract length, player's skills etc.

    And it is hard to predict anyway. I mean Everton reportedly paid more than 100 000 Euros for Valerie Gauvin last Summer, who is an above average player really, but nothing special.
     
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  25. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    Transfermarkt relies on news from tens of thousands proffessional news outlets and sources gathered around the globe that cover men's football daily.
    Women's football in comparision is currently at it's infancy in this field. For this reason Soccerdonna's market values look no better than a fantasy leauge with it's often guessing game. It's not the only reason though - like I said previously - fanboism/girlism and ignorance play their part on this list.

    Mulitiple years you say ... true but I don't think it will change in next 5 years or so. Woso's developement is decades behind BroSo and it needs those decades to level up.

    Gauvin and Parris I see little difference (in value) between both.
     

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