(THE SUN ARTICLE): "It's Time to Think About the End of Wenger"

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Catfish, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. KozIsCul

    KozIsCul Member+

    Feb 6, 2005
    What's really striking isn't so much the headline, but also how shallow the service is in general. Pulis, Martinez, and Poyet are for various reasons not likely to be at their clubs next year, and after that Pardew is in the top 10 with 2+ years at Newcastle.
     
  2. WoodDraw

    WoodDraw Member+

    May 29, 2007
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    And Pardew could easily be out as well. Crazy...
     
  3. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    seems he will be ok, for now anyway.
     
  4. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    Surprised Pulis left, but maybe the Stoke Chairman wanted a football team. or he wanted to change the code of rugby... lol... I can't see who will do better though since Stoke is a small club really. Pulis may not have been top of the "sexy football" listings, but he still made Stoke a competitive club for its size.
     
  5. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    the bookies have mark hughes as fav, with di matteo then gus poyet.
    i could see di matteo ending up at stoke.
     
  6. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    hmm... not so many Arsene out people around now lol...

    I'm still sceptical of him, in all honesty. this summer will be crucial, but i'll give him another two seasons or so with money to spend, and if there is no improvement, then he needs to go. If we get some top quality players, then nothing less than a league challenge can do. or at minimum one of the cups.
     
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  7. WoodDraw

    WoodDraw Member+

    May 29, 2007
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    Go look up Stoke's transfer budget. There are plenty of managers who would have loved to have had the resources he had over the past years.
     
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  8. antifan

    antifan Member+

    Aug 14, 2004
    The Scottie
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    As much as i dislike Hughes, he might be the best choice there.
     
  9. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    you havent paid attention to Pulis' transfer dealings.

    He wasted a lot of money and the fans were pissed. Thats why he got booted. He had no idea how to make Stoke better.
     
  10. dwedan

    dwedan Member

    May 14, 2013
    Los Angeles, CA
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    Pulis is a shocking manager. You can't spend the amount of money he has over the years and have a team play like they're a ****** rugby team. Also, I don't understand what he was doing during the winter transfer window. They had scored the least amount of goals in the premier league up to that point, and he goes out and gets an injured Brek Shea and a championship goalie who's currently on loan.

    Not to meantion, he's a massive ****.
     
  11. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    You can't deny he did an excellent job the last part of the season. You also can't deny that the hole we were in was mostly due to his poor roster management. Nothing has really changed, he just earned a small reprieve.
     
  12. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
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    Go ask the Bolton supporters how things turned out for them after fat Sam left.

    Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
     
  13. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    pulis is old school, same as stoke

    did u expect him to suddenly start playing tika taka?
     
  14. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
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    ^^
    That...too for a mid- to low-mid level team. Nothing wrong with direct football if you know how to play it.
     
  15. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    The only thing I really hated about Stoke was their profligate dirty play. You can play crap style as long as it works, but millions of professional fouls and broken limbs is garbage.
     
  16. LeetOwnage522

    LeetOwnage522 Member

    Mar 26, 2008
    Doodlestan
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    I'd add their twat fans to my list of reasons as well
     
  17. Romfordray

    Romfordray Member+

    Oct 24, 2011
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    Problem is that it is the only style that works for a lot of teams. But I agree wholeheartedly.
     
  18. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    His league positions prior to this season were not that bad. again, stoke is not a big club, so there is a limit to what they can spend and on whom. many clubs in the division are more or less perpetual mid-table/lower top ten clubs based on their size/resources. the only exceptions are liverpool, villa, and maybe Toon and Sunderland.

    As for rugby football, well all managers have their own playing style. we've been spoilt maybe by almost 17 years of sexy football lol..
     
  19. darcgun

    darcgun Member+

    Jan 11, 2008
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    i still think ramsey's injury was deliberate, even though it's over three years ago now.
     
  20. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Back to the subject at hand, check out this interview by Wenger...

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/48274/arsene-wenger

    Dude is no doubt wicked smart & insightful.

    But can he analyze things as well within the subjectivity of his own team as he does as an outsider to other teams & leagues?
     
  21. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    he had no idea how to make stoke better

    you do this a lot. You type without actually fact checking.

    Pulis has net spent something like 80+ million GBP the last 5 seasons
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/mar/20/tony-pulis-stoke-city

    thats more than every club in the premiership except City and Chelsea.

    Im not speaking for Arsenal fans, I am speaking for Stoke fans. What are you talking about?
     
  22. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
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    pulis isn't exactly intelligent as a coach and is english, so don't expect improvement prince!

    he is your mid table slogger and i expect stoke to get relegated now he's gone

    pulis was probably at his optimum coaching level, u won't get many british managers taking sides to a better level and progressing very often sadly
     
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  23. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    And one more thing I just read, was the stats of the season...

    http://www.arsenal.com/news/features/48246/behind-the-numbers-

    One thing that stood out for me was that our 10 game run-in was the 2nd best in the last 18yrs! 26pts out of 30... second only to 2002 when we went a perfect 30.

    Again, kudos go not only to the players but to Wenger and his staff for pulling that off!
     
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  24. lamb

    lamb Member+

    Sep 3, 2004
    Larne, N.Ireland
    credit where it's due for the end, but it has to be tempered by fair harsh criticism for the awful start............
     
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  25. bandwagongooner

    bandwagongooner Member+

    Dec 9, 2006
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    Very true. It took a historically great performance to eke out a 4th place finish...
     

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