Bonds tested for steroids http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2004/09/27/sports1903EDT0401.DTL I'm thinking this is gonna shut you ********ers up once and for all...
Re: Bonds tested for steroids You won't get the results even if they are positive. The union says that you can't release results unless there are two positive tests for the same player. Bonds coudl try to release them himself but the players union wouldn't allow that to happen. but i agree, no chance he's on steroids anymore, if he's ever used them at all
Re: Bonds tested for steroids I thought HGH was the "in" performance enhancing drug now anyway, unless steroids are HGH's (chemist I'm not).
Re: Bonds tested for steroids He's never gonna win. We have the greatest hitter of all time in our midst and people hate him because he's aloof and gets on with his game.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids Actually, people where I live hate him because he's aloof and he gets on with his game for a team other than the Pirates
Re: Bonds tested for steroids If it somehow get released that they were negative it still means nothing more than he's not on 'roids right now. What most people are focused on is the previous two years when he was involved with Balco and all of that information has yet to come to light.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids ...and he's more locked in now than he's ever been in his career. The man reads pitches and hits better right now than probably anyone ever.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids I believe him. I don't think he's on steroids. But he is not and never will be the greatest hitter of all time. I want to make that clear. Ted Williams was, is, and will always be the greatest hitter of all time, bar none. Absolutely nothing will ever convince me otherwise.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids Okay, the second greatest hitter of all time. Doesn't diminish my point that much, though.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids And five years ago, he wasn't even in the top fifty of the All-Century Team. Thus, when he should've been just past his prime, he wasn't regarded as at least one of the fifty greatest of all time. Now he's regarded as at least one of the top five of all time. It's not like he's managed to stay as good in the twilight of his career as he was in his prime, he's gotten better. That's unusual.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids Wow, I didnt' realize that there actually were people out there with their heads so far shoved up their bung holes that they think Bonds is/has been clean. It's not even up for debate, really. The only interesting question is "When did he start," and "What would he have done without them?" IMO, he still would have been one of the all time greats...maybe even have broken Maris' record (it was never McGwire's or Sosa's to lose, since they cheated too).
Re: Bonds tested for steroids Congrats. You have just won this months "Talking Loud without really saying a goddamn thing" award. So, how are you so sure?
Re: Bonds tested for steroids the thing is that strength doesn't get you home runs, its your swing lets say bonds has been on steroids and whatever else, maybe a few fly balls which would have been caught on the warning track would have gone out, but he hits the ball so far that i don't think it makes that much of a difference. I've never really been in favor of comparing players from different generations. You can't compare Ruth to Mays to Bonds..etc. No question he is by far the best player in the game right now, and probably the best player of the last 30 years. Unfortunately he's an ass and everyone hates him outside of SF. I guarantee if he tests positive or not, we'll be telling our kids and grandkids about him though the same way we talk about Aaron and Mays today.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids Maybe he's really a cyborg. I mean, cyborgs are technologically advanced so "Bonds" or should I say XR-300 has some kinda baseball tracking device where he can focus on the ball and hit it. That's also why he's so aloof with the media. I don't think cyborgs have great interpersonal skills. Look at the T-800 from the Terminator movies. Someone should look into this.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids So, in over ninety years, two men hit 60 home runs or more in a season. Then, three men do it in two seasons. Something was juiced.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids I see Bonds on TV almost every single day...there's is absolutely none of the tell tale signs of a steroid user on him. You remember Big Mac's forehead and how it stuck out and how pissed off he was all the time?? All you get with Bonds is a general shrug of the shoulders and a personal joke and laugh with the veteran players on the side when warming up or on base. Not to mention he's absolute peak physical shape, something that most people on steroids really can't claim.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids All pitchers before 1893 were on steroids. It's the only way one can explain how suddenly they stopped pitching every game as a complete game yet had astronomically low ERAs. If the mind can't fathom it, then obviously it is impossible.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids More info. from Sheffield's testimony (and yes it is primarily about Bonds): http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/magazine/10/04/sheffield_bonds1011/index.html
Re: Bonds tested for steroids In summary... Bonds hooked up Sheffield with some personal trainers. Apparently, these trainers gave SHEFFIELD some cream that contained steroids. Also, Bonds is a real self-centered jerk. Er, that's really about it. Anything there you already didn't know??
Re: Bonds tested for steroids That is up for a strong debate. But as much as I hate him, he is really good hitter. He does have a great eye, and that is something that the current level of steroids can't help. Yes, that is unusual. But the greatest athletes often do/perform in ways that are unexpected. Are the Balco steroids part of the typical family of steroids? If so, then the behavioral/physical change that we saw in Big Mac would be an indication. But somehow, I think the Balco steroids are a bit different. That may not be saying much, but it could explain why BB is/was on steroids and behaving "normal." Circumstantial - at least in reference to Bonds' own use.
Re: Bonds tested for steroids You're telling us you haven't noticed Barry's head? Sweet Fancy Moses, man, you're making the strongest case against yourself in this thread.