News: The rebuild goes on... - The summer 2020 transfer thread

I think he'll be a good signing for Chelsea but I don't know how they plan to use him. Probably as a LW with Tammy up top, or in a front two. Regardless of his ceiling there are at least 4 RB Leipzig players we need more than Werner and I don't think we'll sign them either.

 

Additions of Ziyech and Werner will make Chelsea stronger next season, so we clearly need to continue to up our game.

That is the main take-away for me ie not that fussed about missing out as long as we continue to improve ourselves.

Some reports that we cooled our interest once it became apparent there are few takers for Pogba so we wouldn't have the cash. Usual source reliablility, caveats etc. ...

https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/05/what...a-transfer-meeting-12809312/?ito=newsnow-feed

 

Seems like an odd use of money. Why spend 60 mil on Werner for the LW when hes a 9 and they already have Willian, Pulisic, Ziyech, Pedro, Mount, and Hudson-Odoi all as wide players that can fill that role?

A two striker system would probably fit him better but that would require those wide guys I previously listed to play more traditional wing roles rather than the modern day wing-forward role that most teams use. I dont know if many of them are suited for that.

I guess they could line Werner up as like a tucked in LW in sort of a lopsided formation. Who knows. It'll be interesting to see. I still think they need to focus on their back line. They havent a decent midfield and enough young options up front that should take a step up next season. But that defense needs some work.

 

Werner has been playing a different role yhis season, not as an out and out 9.

https://www.bundesliga.com/en/bunde...wandowski-rb-leipzig-s-julian-nagelsmann-9547

Leipzig have lined uo with 2 forwards sometime and with 3. Nkunu seems to play the opposite side of Werner, with Schick in the middle.

 

He's not really a 9. Certainly not a lone 9. He spends most of his time playing in the channels off a target man.

A number of those are either leaving, predominantly RW or central, and Hudson Odoi's summer may well be why Chelsea have signed Werner so proactively. I can't see Werner succeeding as a lone striker so they must have signed him to play as an inside forward, especially with Ziyech as a wide playmaker.

But they are kind of gilding the lily. They need two CBs, a LB and a GK.

 

Right, hes not a lone 9 but you wouldnt call him a winger or even a wing forward. Hes still a 9, just not one that can operate solely. Thats why I didnt mention him really taking over for Tammy but instead playing alongside him in some way. I'm just not sure what that will look like.

 

I think we're have been, and currently are, working on Sancho. There seems to be too much smoke for their not to be a fire there. I think it'll all depend on how much Dortmund want. I honestly think he's one of the few top talents that we have a chance at getting even if Madrid or PSG come sniffing around.

Havertz on the other hand is Bayern bound IMO. They can throw all the other clubs names around but hes a young German star and Bayern gobble those guys up.

 

Sancho is the first transfer since Rooney that would be singularly devastating to miss out on.

 

I agree. It will be the first outfield player since CR7 that I feel confident in saying could one day be the best player in the world. I rate him very highly.

 

One thing about Havertz that worries me is a lot of his goals are very similar. He's really good at making delayed runs into the box. It reminds me a but of Alli during his breakout season. Once teams figured out that's where he was most dangerous they started tracking those runs and he fizzled out.

 

A simple swap...Pogba to Atletico Madrid and in exchange Thomas Partey comes to Manchester United

 

That would be the dumbest transfer in the history of Manchester United.

Edit: You're new and might not realize I'm being hyperbolic. It's a bad transfer and it would never happen is my point. Pogba is a much better player that would fetch a much higher transfer fee. We would essentially be giving away money. And there's a myriad of other reasons why it would never happen, the most obvious being they could never afford his wages.

 

I don't know why Manchester United just doesn't go after Sancho and be done with it but even if you guys don't land him there's Bellingham. But then a really strange rumor I heard about James Rodriguez possibly going to Manchester United.

 

That is why I said rumor but the one that is gaining the most traction right now is Sancho to United

 

Do you think so? I think he's making more types of run than that. Obviously when he's a CAM he's making late runs that get onto cutbacks, but he's also scoring headers, near post finishes in the 6 yard box, shots from the edge of the box, 1v1s... And he's scoring them from the 10, RW and CF.



I'm not sure you can cut the supply by just marking out one run.

 

I'm not saying it's the only way. If anything it's just a nitpicking observation. But I just notice some odd similarities in the types of goal he scores when compared to Alli when he first broke out. Personally I think Havertz is much more talented and will be a better player. It was just something I noticed.

 

Apparently a Tier 1 is reporting us as having contacted Ajax this week about a move for Donny van de Beek.

https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/1076...rid-naast-donny-van-de-beek-door-coronacrisis

 

I wouldn't mind this at all

 

What not be a good movie IMO. It only makes sense to bring him in if Pogba is leaving and he's a huge drop off from Pogs. If Pogs leaves, get a proper 6 and let Fred operate as the 8.

 

If we are signing him and it isn't Ajax playing Real, then it's confusing. But it means the link with Grealish was probably more for AM than LM.

Replacing Lingard and Pereira with VDB seems like a big positive step to me. He's been very productive attacking from a double pivot this season and from the 10 previously. He would be a huge step forward for our squad's game intelligence and would definitely link well with our forward players whilst covering well for Bruno - but the big question would be, wtf about the 6?