The real Hex standings

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Nermalthecat, Mar 29, 2009.

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  1. Foosinho

    Foosinho New Member

    Jan 11, 1999
    New Albany, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1201 Foosinho, Sep 9, 2009
    You aren't stonewalling - you're trucking the goalposts around like they were Quikgoals.

    Who cares? This thread is in the USA forum, and it's about USA qualification. The only thing we really care about is that the US is in the top 3 after matchday 10.

    Sorry - not bad at math, just really, really tired. It's been a long day, and I'm trying to multitask. You're right; it's basically 5 goals. A little less outrageous than 9, but still pretty darn ridiculous, especially given the fact that we've allowed just 9 so far in all qualifying, and CRC has scored 9.

    Basically, CRC has to win out to have a chance. I think their odds of getting a win against us at our house are incredibly slim - especially since we'll almost certainly be just as motivated to get the result we need.

    Their form recently has been dreadful, which also suggests they might not be capable of "winning out".

    No reason not to go balls-out against HON.
     
  2. toddk15

    toddk15 Guest

    #1202 toddk15, Sep 9, 2009
    I don't know man, you have always seemed pretty stubborn and confrontational to me but maybe that is just me.
     
  3. scmcbride21

    scmcbride21 New Member

    May 9, 2006
    United States
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1203 scmcbride21, Sep 10, 2009
    CONCACAF

    Hexagonal (Current Standings)
    USA 16
    Mexico 15
    Honduras 13
    Costa Rica 12
    El Salvador 9
    Trinidad & Tobago 5

    CRC beat TRI
    MEX beat ESL
    HON draw USA

    TRI lose MEX
    ESL draw HON
    USA beat CRC

    FINAL STANDINGS
    Mexico 21
    USA 20
    Honduras 15 *better goal difference
    Costa Rica 15
    El Salvador 8
    Trinidad & Tobago 5
     
  4. Nermalthecat

    Nermalthecat Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Avon, CT
    #1204 Nermalthecat, Sep 10, 2009
    ES would end with 9 in that scenario, and has to be kicking itself only to have gotten 1 point from the T&T home-and-home. That and having lost by a goal in each of its four road qualifiers. Tough luck for them.
     
  5. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1205 JeremyEritrea, Sep 10, 2009
    You just can't do it, can you? Let me try to help you out. Copy and paste the following line into a new reply:

    I was wrong.



    I'm the simpleton? Well if that means I accept the "simple" fact that El Salvador is a good team, especially at home, then guilty as charged.

    Also, what the hell is "quant analysis?" Do you mean "quantitative" or "quaint?"
     
  6. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1206 JeremyEritrea, Sep 10, 2009
    When I'm right, I will stick to it. But when I'm wrong, I'll admit it.
     
  7. scmcbride21

    scmcbride21 New Member

    May 9, 2006
    United States
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1207 scmcbride21, Sep 10, 2009
    Good call it's now corrected.
     
  8. Nermalthecat

    Nermalthecat Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Avon, CT
    #1208 Nermalthecat, Sep 10, 2009
    You're missing the point. There's no "right" or "wrong" in predictive analysis. There's "likely to happen" and "not likely to happen." I clearly underestimated ES's capabilities (not that they had really shown much before the Hex to validate any of this), but that still doesn't mean their seven points at home against the US, MEX and CRC isn't an extreme outlier. It's a sample set of three games, not 300, and it goes against a ton of performance before this Hex in this cycle and well before it.

    You're like the guy at a poker table who can't believe his aces got cracked by jacks when it happens once every five times, on average.


    The former.
     
  9. JeremyEritrea

    JeremyEritrea Member+

    Jun 29, 2006
    Takoma Park, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1209 JeremyEritrea, Sep 10, 2009
    So many more words than "I was wrong, El Salvador is a pretty good team."
     
  10. LBS8844

    LBS8844 Member

    Apr 13, 2008
    #1210 LBS8844, Sep 10, 2009
    We took 4 off of them. Pretty nice work.
     
  11. Nermalthecat

    Nermalthecat Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Avon, CT
    #1211 Nermalthecat, Sep 10, 2009
    Exactly, because I'm not a black-and-white, ex post facto simpleton.
     
  12. Heist

    Heist Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Virginia
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1212 Heist, Sep 10, 2009
    Used to be fun to read this thread. I liked it better than pissing contests.
     
  13. dark knight

    dark knight Super Moderator
    Staff Member

    Dec 15, 1999
    Club:
    Leicester City FC
    #1213 dark knight, Sep 10, 2009
    "Used to be"
     
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