The paucity of English opportunity thread

Discussion in 'England' started by wellno, Aug 9, 2017.

  1. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Also you add Ziyech and the returning Pulisic into the mix it’s even more of a challenge ( which they should be up for fwiw ) however I can’t see Pedro or Willian sticking around as aren’t their contracts up after this Summer? If they are gone, I still think there should be plenty of minutes still knocking around for them especially when some will inevitably pick up injuries throughout the season.
     
  2. Juni

    Juni Member+

    Nov 26, 2010
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    As long as Lampard, Morris and Edwards are around, the academy boys will get plenty of playing time.
     
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  3. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    #2278 Garibaldi11, Jun 6, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2020
    Wigan have a big summer. Clubs circling for both Gelhardt and Weir.

    Good news for them though with Devine.



     
  4. Garibaldi11

    Garibaldi11 Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    #2279 Garibaldi11, Jun 8, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 8, 2020
    Good to see some of the younger/new lads in training with 1st teams

    Bridge, A.Rasmey, Barry with Villa
    Lawrence, Bate with Chelsea
    Fiorini & Palmer with Man City
    Brathwaite with Everton
     
  5. ht_hu96

    ht_hu96 Member+

    Middlesbrough
    England
    May 23, 2019
    One interesting conversation to have is what will happen if the domestic cups are cancelled next season in terms of this thread. I know there's been no talk of this yet, but I thought I'd raise it as a hypothetical point given how congested next season will be and that surely something will need to give in order to complete it.

    On the one hand, it will be good for our main starters going into the Euro's, who are regulars for their club sides, as it will give them some much needed rest. On the other hand however, it will be bad news for players who are more fringe and squad players. Also, it would significantly hinder the chances of first team debuts for youngsters or opportunities for them in general given that is where their first taste of professional football tends to come from.
     
  6. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Interesting to see Chelsea now heavily linked to Havertz today, not sure how strong that link is but if he signed, maybe that would be a bit more of a concern for our English players as far as playing time is concerned next season. Ziyech, Werner, Havertz in plus the returning Pulisic might to start to impact playing time even with Pedro and Willian off. I’m sure like usual some will pick up quite a few injuries over the season as they normally do, so I’m sure things will sort themselves anyway and playing time will presumably be quite well shared given the probable amount of congested fixtures next season.
     
  7. Serengeti_Boy

    Serengeti_Boy Member+

    Sep 15, 2009
    Serengeti, East Africa
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Tanzania
    Lampard doesn't seem to trust CHO and I don't blame him.
     
  8. roverman

    roverman Member+

    Dec 22, 2001
    Hes been forced in too soon. Was hoping he could replicate what sancho has done but hes nowhere near that level yet
     
  9. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    He just needs more time and a run when he doesn’t get injured. He’s had a bad injury so it could take more time for him to for fill his potential, I’m not overly worried, it’s just if he can stay injury free and I think he will be fine.
     
  10. Jenks

    Jenks Member+

    Feb 16, 2013
    Club:
    --other--
    He has a rape conviction to try and avoid first.
     
  11. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Somehow I actually forgot about that! Yeah, that’s a huge factor that he needs be cleared of firstly otherwise his career is down the pan full stop!
     
  12. JTay

    JTay Member

    England
    Apr 27, 2019
  13. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    #2288 Marcho Gamgee, Jun 16, 2020
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2020
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  14. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday:

    Matchday 1 - 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 2 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 3 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 4 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 5 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 6 - 69/220 = 31.36%

    Matchday 7 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 8 - 73/220 = 33.18%

    Matchday 9 - 77/220 = 35%

    Matchday 10 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 11 - 71/220 = 32.27%

    Matchday 12 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 13 - 79/220 = 35.9%

    Matchday 14 - 80/220 = 36.36%

    Matchday 15 - 77/220 = 35%

    Matchday 16 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 17 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 18 - 80/220 = 36.36 % (Updated)

    Matchday 19 - 79/220 = 35.9%

    Matchday 20 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 21 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 22- 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 23 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 24 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 25 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 26 - 76/220 = 34.54% ( updated )

    Matchday 27 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 28 - 84/220 = 38.18% ( updated )
     
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  15. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    O’Riley and Gomes are out of contract next week. Wonder if they’ll both go abroad...
     
  16. MrSnrub

    MrSnrub Member+

    Oct 7, 2018
    Gomes is reportedly close to signing a new contract with United which I can't help but feel will be a mistake. With his build he's going to find it very difficult to get chances to ever establish himself in the premier league.

    Considering he's 20 in August he's really at the age where he now needs to be getting first team opportunities or else the gap between him and his peers will really start to show.
     
  17. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Yeah, if he stays then a loan abroad is a must. O’Riley will probably join another Championship team or go to Holland or Germany.
     
  18. BarryfromEastenders

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    Jul 6, 2008
     
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  19. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    I’ve not really watched that much of Birmingham and more specifically Bellingham that much but am watching against WBA now and it must be frustrating for him as a player as within the first 20 minutes he finds himself in so much space as his movement is great but unfortunately the other players just aren’t good enough or quick enough to see him and give him the ball, feel a bit sorry for him. Feels like the other players are just not on the same wavelength as him tbh, will be interesting to see him at a bigger Club with better players.
     
  20. TopBanana10

    TopBanana10 Member+

    Millwall
    England
    Sep 8, 2018
    Things went a bit better for him as the match went on. Does anyone else feel like he does much of his best work in his own half? Such a well-rounded player.
     
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  21. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
     
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  22. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday:

    Matchday 1 - 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 2 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 3 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 4 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 5 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 6 - 69/220 = 31.36%

    Matchday 7 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 8 - 73/220 = 33.18%

    Matchday 9 - 77/220 = 35%

    Matchday 10 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 11 - 71/220 = 32.27%

    Matchday 12 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 13 - 79/220 = 35.9%

    Matchday 14 - 80/220 = 36.36%

    Matchday 15 - 77/220 = 35%

    Matchday 16 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 17 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 18 - 80/220 = 36.36 % (Updated)

    Matchday 19 - 79/220 = 35.9%

    Matchday 20 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 21 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 22- 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 23 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 24 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 25 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 26 - 76/220 = 34.54% ( updated )

    Matchday 27 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 28 - 84/220 = 38.18% ( updated )

    Matchday 29 - 83/220 = 37.7%
     
  23. Iansutton270390

    Iansutton270390 Member+

    Tottenham Hotspur
    England
    Jan 12, 2019
    Did anyone watch foden tonight? Probably the best game I've seen him play. Ran that game from start to finish. Didn't look out of place playing alongside de bruyne and the Silvas. Seems like guardiola has finally seen the light. Shame it was against Burnley though with all their English starters but they're safe.
     
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  24. Marcho Gamgee

    Marcho Gamgee Member+

    England
    Apr 25, 2015
    Somewhere in English Arrogance land
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    English eligible players starting in the Premier League, total per matchday:

    Matchday 1 - 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 2 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 3 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 4 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 5 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 6 - 69/220 = 31.36%

    Matchday 7 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 8 - 73/220 = 33.18%

    Matchday 9 - 77/220 = 35%

    Matchday 10 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 11 - 71/220 = 32.27%

    Matchday 12 - 74/220 = 33.6%

    Matchday 13 - 79/220 = 35.9%

    Matchday 14 - 80/220 = 36.36%

    Matchday 15 - 77/220 = 35%

    Matchday 16 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 17 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 18 - 80/220 = 36.36 % (Updated)

    Matchday 19 - 79/220 = 35.9%

    Matchday 20 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 21 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 22- 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 23 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 24 - 76/220 = 34.54%

    Matchday 25 - 78/220 = 35.45%

    Matchday 26 - 76/220 = 34.54% ( updated )

    Matchday 27 - 75/220 = 34.09%

    Matchday 28 - 84/220 = 38.18% ( updated )

    Matchday 29 - 83/220 = 37.7%

    Matchday 30 - 89/220 = 40.45%
     
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  25. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    We need to cap saka

    this kid is legit
     
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